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Thursday, May 27, 2010 · sitting No. 50

House debates budget bill amid clashes over G20 costs and maternal health

The House devoted the largest share of its time to debate on Bill C-9, the Jobs and Economic Growth Act. New Democratic Party MP Nathan Cullen told the House the nearly 900-page measure buries unpopular provisions on nuclear sales, environmental assessments and employment insurance accounting that deserve separate votes. Conservative ministers defended the bill as essential to job creation and said the finance committee had already examined it thoroughly.

Question period opened with repeated exchanges on security spending for the coming G8 and G20 summits. Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said costs already exceed those of the Vancouver Olympics and asked why the government could not control expenses. Minister John Baird replied that the Prime Minister had shown leadership by hosting two summits and that security must protect visiting heads of state and Canadian residents alike.

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Who held the floor · 2010-05-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 56%, opposition 44% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 22:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
35Supply Talk Fills Day, Answers Mostly MissingThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to Business of Supply and the Jobs and Economic Growth Act, with almost no recorded progress on legislation. Question period produced mostly deflected replies and no votes were held.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Status of Women

Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe charged that the government's refusal to fund abortion services abroad had revived the domestic abortion debate. Status of Women Minister Rona Ambrose said Canadians want the G8 to focus on saving the lives of mothers and children in developing countries rather than reopen divisive questions.

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Firearms Registry

Bloc Québécois MP Maria Mourani cited Quebec public-health data showing the registry has reduced firearm suicides and homicides. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said front-line officers told the public-safety committee the long-gun registry does not stop criminals and should be eliminated.

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Securities

Bloc Québécois MP Daniel Paillé said Quebec's National Assembly unanimously opposes a national securities commission. Industry Minister Christian Paradis answered that participation remains voluntary and that the Supreme Court will decide jurisdictional questions.

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Asbestos

Conservative MP Terence Young told the House that victims of mesothelioma whose products originated in Canada can seek additional recourse through the courts. He urged those without provincial or corporate compensation to pursue that route.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Public SafetyMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to safety and leadership without addressing the cost comparison or incompetence allegation.We are concerned about two things. One is the safety of the world leaders who will be visiting our great country and the safety of people in the Huntsville, Muskoka and in the city of Toronto.
  2. deflected
    Public SafetyMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to post-9/11 security realities and a recent firebombing instead of explaining the spending or deficit link.since 9/11, security has become a new reality for Canadians and for people in every part of the world.
  3. misdirected
    Public SafetyMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner for running down Canada rather than addressing the cost or planning criticisms.the leader of the Liberal Party never misses an occasion to run down Canada.
  4. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights a firebombing and accuses Liberals of not caring about security instead of justifying the costs.I notice the Liberals on the other side are laughing. That is their attitude toward security.
  5. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes pride in hosting and expert planning without explaining cost containment or the two-location decision.Our security plan has been developed and costed by Canada's best experts in the field.
  6. deflected
    Status of WomenMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reframes to saving lives abroad and calls the debate divisive rather than addressing the exclusion of abortion.Canadians and Quebeckers want us to save the lives of women and children in the developing world.
  7. deflected
    Status of WomenMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights World Vision Canada and the G8 initiative instead of addressing alleged influence from religious groups.our policy is influenced by people like Sharon Marshall from World Vision Canada, who is telling us that over 24,000 children under the age of five will die in the developing world.
  8. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again cites external voices and the goal of saving lives without explaining the exclusion of abortion from the policy.The real issue is 8.8 million children are dying every year from causes that we could easily prevent with intervention that costs pennies.
  9. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes a false premise of ideological suppression and attacks the PM personally; the answer avoids the claim by restating funding increases.the truth is that our government increased funding for women to an unprecedented level.
  10. deflected
    Public SafetyJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes wasteful overspending and demands justification for costs; the answer shifts to leadership and security talking points without addressing the figures.Canada is providing major leadership on the world stage.
  11. deflected
    Public SafetyJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes mismanagement and isolation on multiple issues; the answer repeats security and leadership points without engaging the criticisms.The reality is that in a post-9/11 environment, security will not come cheaply.
  12. deflected
    Financial InstitutionsJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes a misguided international tour to aid banks; the answer pivots to tax policy and job creation without addressing the premise.there is an honest difference of opinion between this government and the New Democrats.
  13. misdirected
    EthicsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks about the PM's reaction to the industry minister's ad; the answer addresses unrelated contracts instead.the regular tendering process at CFB Borden was used in awarding these contracts.
  14. misdirected
    EthicsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks about rule violations in an ad; the answer attacks the asker on an unrelated gun registry flip-flop.It is time that the member rise and apologize for that flip-flop.
  15. deflected
    Maternal HealthMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes isolation and disregard for science on abortion; the answer avoids the issue by calling for an end to debate and restating child mortality stats.Canadians do not want to have this debate.
  16. deflected
    Maternal HealthMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes isolation and ignoring others on multiple issues; the answer repeats calls to support the G8 initiative without addressing the claims.We have a responsibility to act to save the lives of women and children.
  17. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates voluntary participation and inserts unrelated quote instead of addressing why change the provincial system.Setting politics aside, I would like to quote Joey Davis of the Earl Jones victims committee, who just today said that a Canadian securities regulator holds the best potential to make a difference in preventing and deterring white collar crime.
  18. misdirected
    SecuritiesMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking Bloc record on fiscal imbalance rather than addressing the jurisdiction or National Assembly condemnation.For 13 years, it did nothing as the fiscal imbalance was created.
  19. partly answered
    Firearms RegistryMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites police testimony on registry failure but does not engage the cited suicide and homicide reduction statistics.Officer Dave Shipman said that the long gun registry is not working to prevent gun crime.
  20. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accuses member of misleading and restates opposition to registry without addressing Quebec National Assembly or poll data.I wish the member would stop misleading the public.
  21. misdirected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the member for turning hunters into criminals instead of addressing the Université de Montréal study on lives saved.That member wants to turn them into criminals if they do not register their long guns.
  22. misdirected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to G8 security and Liberal leader criticism while ignoring the cost comparison and registry lives-saved claim.Unlike the Liberal leader , who has said he is embarrassed of Canada, we are proud and ready to showcase Canada on the world stage.
  23. answered
    Offshore DrillingMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the National Energy Board review and notes no current Arctic drilling, addressing the call for precautions.the National Energy Board announced on May 12 that it would begin a review of all rules and regulations.
  24. deflected
    Offshore DrillingHedy Fry (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer offers general assurance on environmental rules without committing to a permanent moratorium or addressing the 1972 policy change.We have tough regulatory regimes in place and we are always prepared to make them even tougher.
  25. deflected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mocks the asker and pivots to general small-business talking points without addressing the conflict-of-interest allegation.The reality is that this government continues to work hard to promote and support small business right across this land.
  26. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker for comparing governments instead of addressing whether the minister should be fired.but for him to compare this Conservative government to the previous Liberal government goes beyond any standard of proper etiquette in this House of Commons.
  27. deflected
    Committees of the HouseMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends ministerial attendance in general but shifts to accusing the opposition of bullying and filibustering.We will not allow our political staff to attend committees and be subjected to the abuse, intimidation and bullying tactics of the coalition opposition parties.
  28. deflected
    Committees of the HouseMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims the opposite of the premise and pivots to criticizing Liberal actions at committee rather than addressing accountability.the ultimate double standard was conducted today at the government operations committee when the Liberals filibustered that committee to prevent the member for Scarborough—Rouge River from testifying
  29. partly answered
    InfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites one specific funding announcement but ignores the broader question of a long-term strategy for wastewater infrastructure costs.We have announced $100 million to help the great city of Hamilton increase its capacity to make water safe.
  30. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the previous Liberal government and the asker personally instead of addressing the funding strategy request.I hope the people of Parkdale—High Park will watch who is fighting for them.
  31. deflected
    Budget Implementation LegislationMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists positive budget items but does not address the concern about burying measures in an omnibus bill.Would it be the $500 million in transfer protection payments to the provinces?
  32. answered
    Budget Implementation LegislationMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the government will not support deleting sections and cites committee approval of the bill.
  33. deflected
    HealthMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general standards without addressing the specific concerns about enforceable limits, inspections, or the private lab findings.we have established high standards to ensure that bottled water sold in Canada does not pose a health and safety risk to Canadians.
  34. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the child soldier and repatriation issues by focusing on allegations and US jurisdiction.The American government is in charge of this file and the Americans will conduct the legal proceedings.
  35. deflected
    Business of the HouseMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The response avoids answering by inquiring about equal speaking time instead of addressing the agenda or policy questions.I am just wondering whether I would have equal time with the member.