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Thursday, April 29, 2010 · sitting No. 36

Commons debates refugee reform bill amid opposition concerns

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on debate at second reading of the Balanced Refugee Reform Act. New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen said the New Democrats have concerns with the fundamentals of Bill C-11 and sought to move the bill to committee before it received the recommendation of the House in principle. Conservative minister Jason Kenney said the bill reflects a broad political consensus favourable toward immigration and the protection of refugees.

Liberal MP Paul Szabo and New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen pressed for criteria on the definition of a country of safe origin and for draft regulations to be referred to committee. In Question Period, Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc asked how many ministers or parliamentary secretaries were lobbied by unregistered lobbyist Rahim Jaffer, and Conservative minister John Baird said the government made all relevant documents public and that any evidence of improper activity should be sent to the lobbying commissioner.

Decided that day

  • C-11 advanced to second reading

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Who held the floor · 2010-04-29

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 34%, opposition 66% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment businessPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:50Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 50 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
36One bill inches forward amid deflectionThe Commons moved refugee-reform legislation to second reading and devoted most speaking time to substantive topics. Question Period produced almost no clear answers and the Speaker issued five calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Constitution Act, 2010 (Senate Term Limits)

Minister of State for Democratic Reform Steven Fletcher moved second reading of Bill C-10 to set non-renewable eight-year terms for senators appointed after the bill becomes law. Liberal MP Joyce Murray said the measure risks making the Senate more partisan and lacks provincial consultations or Supreme Court referral.

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Appointment of Judges

Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe asked how the government could appoint Jacques Léger, a former Conservative Party president who represented Hells Angels business interests, to the Quebec Court of Appeal. Conservative minister Christian Paradis said appointments are based on merit through a rigorous selection process.

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Afghanistan

Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh said the government has hidden detainee transfer reports in containers in Kandahar and asked for a guarantee the documents will be found and produced. Conservative minister Peter MacKay cited testimony that no abuse of transferred detainees was indicated in records through March 2007.

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Committees of the House

New Democrat MP Jim Maloway presented petitions calling for adoption of Bill C-310 to compensate air passengers for overbooked or cancelled flights and long tarmac delays. Conservative MP Brian Jean said the government supports consumer protection through Flight Rights Canada and existing legislation.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids stating any number and instead highlights government actions and refers the asker elsewhere.If the member opposite has any evidence of anyone not obeying the law, he should follow the Prime Minister 's lead and forward it to the lobbying commissioner.
  2. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies delegation is possible then pivots to attacking the prior Liberal government.Compare this to the previous Liberal government when millions of dollars went missing and the Liberal Party found itself in a position where it had to return some of the kickbacks it had received from taxpayers.
  3. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the call to close a loophole and instead references past Liberal scandals and the lobbying commissioner.If the member opposite has any information with respect to improper activities, he should follow the lead of the Prime Minister and forward that to the appropriate authority.
  4. misdirected
    EthicsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the specific project query as a fishing expedition and attacks the Liberal record instead.Tomorrow is also the day where Liberals should pay back taxpayers the $39 million of missing money.
  5. deflected
    EthicsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims transparency but points only to referrals to authorities without releasing the requested communications.We have forwarded a significant amount of information to the relevant authorities, the independent agents of Parliament who are tasked with enforcing the law.
  6. deflected
    Appointment of JudgesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the appointment process but attacks the asker for questioning the judge's credibility.It is shameful that the member is attacking the credibility of a judge who was duly appointed according to the rules of the system.
  7. deflected
    Appointment of JudgesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insists on a rigorous process without addressing whether inquiries into the judge's past were made.A transparent and rigorous process was followed in this case, just as it is with any other appointment.
  8. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states documents were provided but does not address why the minister failed to mention assisting Jaffer's files earlier.The documents related to the Jaffer affair are now public.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the direct accusation about responsibility by pivoting to the lobbying commissioner and lack of contracts.This issue is before the commissioner, and we believe that she will assure all members of Parliament and all Canadians that no one is above the law.
  10. partly answered
    Government AppointmentsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the qualifications process in general terms but does not explain the specific choice of Jacques Léger.Let me assure the member opposite that we look for high calibre, competent individuals who can administrate the public business and for our courts.
  11. deflected
    Government AppointmentsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the Hells Angels and partisan ties premise by restating the general judicial appointment process.Our bottom line is we want people who are qualified to serve on the bench.
  12. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner for wanting to act as judge and contrasts with the prior Liberal government rather than addressing the allegations.I guess the deputy leader of the New Democratic Party would have us get rid of the judiciary and he could provide judicial judgments on the floor of the House of Commons.
  13. deflected
    EthicsMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to transparency and past Liberal scandals instead of explaining why the minister's office fast-tracked the files.Let us contrast our actions to those of the previous Liberal government.
  14. deflected
    EthicsMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that no money was given and pivots to Liberal missing funds rather than addressing privileged treatment.That is in sharp contrast to the previous Liberal government when $40 million went missing.
  15. deflected
    EthicsMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states no money was received but does not address whether the minister or her staff had any dealings with Jaffer.Let me repeat that. Mr. Jaffer got no money from the green infrastructure fund.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes transparency and that no money resulted but avoids explaining the fast-tracking or delayed document release.If the member from Newfoundland and Labrador wants to suggest that that privileged access got him the fast track, the fact is that the fast track was really going in the ditch because he did not get any money.
  17. deflected
    International Co-operationMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies reopening debate but ignores funding cuts and ideology claim.The government has absolutely no intention of reopening the abortion debate.
  18. partly answered
    International Co-operationMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims larger envelope but sidesteps eliminating other projects concern.if the member were to read the budget, she would realize that our aid envelope is larger than it has ever been in the history of Canada.
  19. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mocks asker's era instead of addressing loan guarantees timeline.I would ask him what age he is living in.
  20. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insults Bloc members' purpose rather than responding on wood use in buildings.I am very proud to be a token Quebecker, because at least I serve a purpose.
  21. misdirected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks rhetoric and provides unrelated quote instead of addressing hidden reports or inquiry.
  22. misdirected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses question with hyperbole critique and witness quote without guaranteeing documents.here we go again. Despite the overblown, over torque rhetoric of the member opposite and despite his hyperventilating and his hyperbole
  23. answered
    Foreign AidBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly reassures on continued diplomatic and development efforts post-2011.post-2011 Canada would not only continue with its diplomatic mission in Kandahar but would also continue with its development in and aid to that country.
  24. partly answered
    Foreign AidBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats commitment to Kandahar mission but does not explicitly confirm civilian presence there.post-2011, Canada would continue its diplomatic mission in Kandahar and Afghanistan.
  25. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the accountability question by defending a colleague and pivoting to the economic action plan.I deeply resent the comments made by the member of the New Democratic Party about the hard-working member for Fort McMurray—Athabasca .
  26. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response ignores the lobbying access issue and instead highlights positive access granted to the questioner.It is quite colourful language he is using.
  27. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the carbon exchange question by attacking the Bloc's supposed oil sands investment.However, we all want to know how the Bloc's investment in the oil sands is going.
  28. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the harmonized U.S. approach and emissions drop but then pivots to criticizing Liberals.We are already seeing greenhouse gas emissions going down.
  29. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The response evades the cost and information request by attacking the Liberals' crime policy.The Liberals have shown that they have a fundamentally different view on what it means to be tough on crime.
  30. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer diverts entirely to accusing Liberals of theft instead of addressing withheld prison costs.We know that the Liberal Party stole $40 million.
  31. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The reply ignores the cost balloon question and accuses the NDP of supporting criminals over victims.They will stand up for Taliban soldiers.
  32. deflected
    JusticeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining costs by urging the member to listen to an NDP provincial minister.I would suggest that the member listen to the NDP justice minister in Manitoba because at least that is one New Democrat who actually cares about victims, unlike the caucus over on the other side.
  33. deflected
    Food Mail ProgramLarry Bagnell (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promises a future announcement without explaining any mechanics of the new plan.We will be shortly announcing a revamp of that nutritious food program that is sustainable, that takes into account the information we got from the north.
  34. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the member's credibility instead of addressing the minister's handling of the incident.I will take his word over that of the member opposite.
  35. deflected
    International Co-operationMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes unity and G8 goals without addressing why specific recommendations on abortion were omitted.our government is focused on how we can make a difference in saving the lives of women and children in ways that unite us, not divide us.
  36. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Robert Oliphant (Liberal) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains current bed policies but does not address plans to change access rules for allied or other veterans.our veterans who served overseas can indeed go to Sainte-Anne's Hospital.
  37. deflected
    Workplace SafetyMr. Luc Desnoyers (Bloc) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes a review of the report but offers no commitment on allocating more resources for inspectors.officials from my department are reviewing it.
  38. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights new funding and mapping benefits without addressing the alleged imbalance or permit monitoring failures.we did announce in the budget increased funding for not only cumulative environmental impacts on communities in the far north, but also regulatory reform
  39. answered
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly lists the legislative schedule and confirms an allotted day without addressing the take-note debate request.Tuesday, May 4, will be an allotted day.
  40. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites procedural rules to argue the amendments are out of order.An amendment to a bill that was referred to a committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.