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Thursday, April 15, 2010 · sitting No. 26

Commons debates budget bill as opposition presses on Afghan detainees and ethics

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-9, the jobs and economic growth act. Bloc Québécois MP Luc Malo continued debate on the measure, arguing it ignored middle-class priorities and failed to address bank tax havens. NDP MP Peter Julian said the bill favoured banks and big business over communities, while Liberal MP Scott Brison called the title a misnomer because it contained no measures for future jobs and growth.

In Question Period, Liberal MP Bob Rae pressed National Defence Minister Peter MacKay for a public inquiry into Afghan detainee treatment after new allegations surfaced at committee. MacKay replied that the witness offered no specific evidence and that the Canadian Forces investigate every allegation. Rae said contradictions among accounts made an inquiry essential.

Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette asked whether allegations involving the former minister for the status of women, including mingling with prostitutes and use of cocaine, had been sent to the RCMP. Transport Minister Lawrence Cannon said the Prime Minister had forwarded all allegations to the appropriate authorities.

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Who held the floor · 2010-04-15

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 25%, opposition 75% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
57Bills creep ahead while answers dodgeThe sitting devoted most time to the Jobs and Economic Growth Act and moved three bills forward, with over four-fifths of debate on substantive business. Yet Question Period produced few direct answers and six points of order interrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Access to Information

Liberal MP Marc Garneau accused the government of systematic censorship and a culture of secrecy after the Information Commissioner gave several departments failing grades.

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Aboriginal Affairs

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Adjournment Proceedings

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on the lack of evidence for allegations rather than addressing the call for a public inquiry.In fact, what we heard yesterday was that a witness before the committee made allegations and when specifically asked about those allegations said that he had no specific evidence to support the claims.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends military investigations and testimony without engaging the request for a public inquiry.Each and every time there are specific allegations, appropriate officials take appropriate action.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lectures on evidence and procedure while avoiding the inquiry question.When specific allegations are brought forward, we have forums, investigations and the ability to look into them.
  4. deflected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reiterates the need for specific allegations instead of addressing the inquiry demand or cowardice claim.When that happens, the Canadian Forces will follow that evidence each and every time.
  5. misdirected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner personally and accuses him of disparaging the forces rather than addressing the inquiry request.I wish, just for once, we would get a question from the hon. member that would reflect an acknowledgement that the men and women of the Canadian Forces continue to do great work on behalf of our country
  6. answered
    EthicsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms that allegations were forwarded to the RCMP.when these allegations were brought to our attention, we did what we had to do and forwarded them to the appropriate authorities, so that they would take the required and necessary actions.
  7. deflected
    EthicsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the Prime Minister's actions but avoids confirming the specific allegations mentioned.Now, if the opposition member has allegations to make, he should bring them to the attention of those who are responsible for taking appropriate action.
  8. answered
    EthicsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the steps taken including forwarding to the Ethics Commissioner and her authority to investigate.forwarded them to the independent Ethics Commissioner.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists referrals made but does not address whether the PMO checked the specific allegations about companies in Belize.He immediately referred them to the RCMP.
  10. misdirected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer calls the premise false and attacks the witness instead of explaining why warnings were not received by the military police commander.When pressed, when asked specifically to present evidence that could be followed, the witness admitted that he had no specific evidence to offer.
  11. misdirected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner with accusations of smears rather than addressing the call for a full inquiry into the chain of command.I just wish the hon. member would show a little more support for what they do.
  12. deflected
    Government AccountabilityJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to past legislation and attacks the NDP instead of addressing the refusal of an inquiry or delays in information requests.When we tried to put a little light on the Canadian Wheat Board, the NDP stood up to put a cloak of darkness.
  13. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that allegations were referred to authorities but does not resolve the contradiction about whether the Ethics Commissioner was formally notified.He immediately referred these allegations to the relevant authorities so that they, on behalf of Canadians, could independently look into these situations.
  14. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as preposterous and restates referrals without addressing why no enhanced security check was ordered earlier.the allegations made by the member opposite are quite preposterous.
  15. deflected
    EthicsMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims cooperation with the RCMP but does not confirm whether the government will proactively release details of meetings from the Belize trip.It is the competent authority to conduct this investigation, and this government will co-operate fully in that investigation should it choose to undertake one.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states that information was forwarded to the RCMP but does not answer whether the government paid for Mr. Jaffer's travel or holds records of his meetings.The Prime Minister has forwarded all the information that he learned last Thursday evening on to the RCMP so it can conduct an independent investigation.
  17. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies premise and attacks questioner's standards instead of addressing protocol effectiveness.I just wish the hon. member would raise his standards a little in his questioning.
  18. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks opposition for associating with witness and avoids inquiry call.If that is not disparaging their reputation, then I do not know what is.
  19. partly answered
    AfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends 2007 agreement and monitoring efforts but does not address specific 2008 cases.It is not perfect, but it is far better than it was when we inherited this mission.
  20. deflected
    AfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer points to ongoing reviews without committing to uncensored documents or timeline.We are cooperating with the MPCC.
  21. deflected
    EthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies grants but insults member instead of addressing document release.The member opposite should be ashamed of himself.
  22. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer challenges member to repeat claims outside immunity and avoids facts request.He could go outside and repeat the outrageous claims he just made, but I suspect that when it comes to that member, once again he will not have the guts.
  23. partly answered
    Access to InformationMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.Answer acknowledges room for improvement but does not address specific departments or secrecy claim.We recognize there is room for improvement and we are taking steps to improve.
  24. deflected
    Access to InformationMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts blame to civil servants and avoids addressing culture of secrecy.Decisions regarding access to information are made by professionals in the civil service.
  25. deflected
    EthicsMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids addressing awareness by deferring to RCMP and attacking the asker.For him to stand in this place and come to conclusions based on media reports is quite outrageous.
  26. deflected
    EthicsMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats referral to authorities without explaining the expulsion or condemning the practice.He referred the matter to the relevant authorities so that they can conduct an independent review.
  27. partly answered
    Access to InformationMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the report and notes processing times but does not address red alert or delays.The government has processed most requests for information within 30 days.
  28. misdirected
    Access to InformationMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the request for information and attacks the opposition and PBO instead.I would suggest perhaps it is time for the Parliamentary Budget Officer to go back and ask the Liberal Party what happened to the $57 billion
  29. answered
    Foreign AffairsDan McTeague (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains consular role and court constraints on the case.Consular officials abroad and here in Ottawa have respected and will respect the court orders concerning the minor child.
  30. answered
    Foreign AffairsDan McTeague (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly reiterates respect for court process and readiness to assist if ordered.As the current matter is in front of the courts, we will abide by the court rules.
  31. partly answered
    HealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the facility decision via the study but does not explain conflicting accounts or political interference.an independent study was commissioned by the Gates Foundation that concluded that the facility is unnecessary.
  32. deflected
    HealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior point and attacks the opposition's motives instead of guaranteeing the funds.In addition to refusing to accept the truth as an answer, the wild goose chase by members opposite has now taken the unfortunate turn of questioning the credibility of public health officials.
  33. misdirected
    Aboriginal AffairsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions a proposal process but pivots to attacking the asker rather than outlining any long-term plan.it sure was not helped by this member and the work that he did not do when he was finance minister.
  34. deflected
    TaxationMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the banking sector's strength instead of addressing the proposed tax on financial institutions.Why would we impose a tax on banks when they cause no harm to Canadians?
  35. partly answered
    Mining IndustryMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states ongoing monitoring but does not confirm whether labour issues were discussed in the listed meetings.we do continue to monitor this situation.
  36. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes the lack of a submitted plan and limited enrollment share rather than addressing long-term federal support.there is no business plan with a single number in it, not a dollar, not a number in it, yet.
  37. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references the $10 million commitment and a follow-on project but does not specify funding or timing for a second Sisters in Spirit phase.Our government has also signed an agreement to take the next series of projects forward called "evidence to action".
  38. partly answered
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the weekly agenda but omits any mention of the promised Air Canada official languages bill.Today I hope to conclude the debate at second reading of Bill C-9 , the jobs and economic growth act.
  39. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies the referral process to the Ethics Commissioner and the Commissioner's authority to act.The Ethics Commissioner has the capacity, as she said on CBC this morning, to initiate an investigation proactively if she sees fit.