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Friday, March 12, 2010 · sitting No. 8

Commons holds take-note debate on economy as opposition challenges job forecasts

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to a take-note debate on the economy under Government Orders. Liberal MP John McCallum said the session underlined that prorogation had been unnecessary and that the government lacked legislation or a real agenda. Conservative MP James Lunney replied that the economy remained the central concern for Canadians seeking work.

In Question Period Liberal MP John McCallum pressed the government on forecasts by the Parliamentary Budget Officer, accusing Finance Minister Jim Flaherty of misrepresenting the officer's use of private-sector projections. Conservative MP Ted Menzies said the officer's comments conflicted with the consensus of 15 economists and defended the budget numbers as prudent.

Liberal MP Bob Rae asked why reports of prisoner ill-treatment in Afghanistan continued to be ignored, and Conservative MP Tony Clement said the matters would be examined by Mr. Justice Iacobucci in a review of related documents.

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Who held the floor · 2010-03-12

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 43%, opposition 57% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
27Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to debate on the economy and Afghanistan, yet recorded no votes and advanced no legislation. Question period produced largely deflected answers with almost no procedural disputes.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Pensions

Liberal MP Bonnie Crombie said the government had ignored pension reform in the budget and offered only a balloon on Seniors' Day. Conservative MP Ted Menzies said the government had already enhanced protections for federally regulated private pension plans in October 2009.

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Securities

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Carrier said the plan for a single securities commission attacked Quebec's jurisdiction and autonomy. Conservative MP Jean-Pierre Blackburn said provinces would not be required to participate and that a national body would protect investors.

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Citizenship and Immigration

Liberal MP Mauril Bélanger said Ottawa had refused to match Quebec's flexibility on family reunification for Haitian relatives. Conservative MP Rick Dykstra said all sponsorship cases had been made a priority after the earthquake.

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Oil and Gas Industry

NDP MP Nathan Cullen said the budget gave a massive tax giveaway to profitable oil and gas companies instead of funding green technology. Conservative MP Jim Prentice said the government had invested in clean energy funds and a low-carbon electricity system.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses past arrangements and debates instead of addressing why reports were ignored.That is one of the reasons why three years ago the government created a new and more robust transfer arrangement that replaced the arrangement put in place by the previous Liberal government before we came to power.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to the Iacobucci review rather than explaining the reported contradiction.I suppose we are two peas in a pod.
  3. partly answered
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the task of Justice Iacobucci but does not provide the terms of reference or timeline.He is undertaking an independent, comprehensive and proper review of the documents related to Taliban prisoners.
  4. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the review process but avoids specifics on timing, mandate, or results.There will be a report back to the House or to a proper committee.
  5. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the purpose of the review without addressing the mandate details or release of information.We have to look at this in its scope and examine that information as it might impact on operations and on information received from a foreign government.
  6. deflected
    TaxationMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the use of private sector forecasts instead of addressing the surtax proposal.I encourage Kevin Page to meet with these economists, who say that we are even being prudent in our budget estimates.
  7. deflected
    TaxationMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends private sector input and past practice without addressing tax havens.This is nothing new. We have been doing this since 1994.
  8. misdirected
    TaxationMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to job creation statistics instead of explaining the absence of Quebec payments in the budget.Statistics Canada just announced that, in February, 21,000 jobs were created in Canada and the unemployment rate dropped from 8.3% to 8.2%.
  9. deflected
    TaxationMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to equalization payments instead of addressing the specific owed amounts for tax harmonization.with equalization, poorer provinces receive money from the federal government.
  10. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.It mentions taking action on credible evidence but does not address the US State Department report or document release.our military and our officials, when presented with credible, substantiated evidence, have taken very appropriate action.
  11. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Responds by praising their new agreement without addressing ongoing transfers or specific allegations of torture.Three years ago, we concluded a new agreement on the transfer of detainees with the Afghan authorities.
  12. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids admitting or addressing the torture claims by focusing on positive contributions to Afghan institutions.we have been building the institutions of the Afghan government, including better prisons
  13. deflected
    The BudgetJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The response opens with sarcasm and then misstates the PBO's position rather than explaining the minister's comments.how exciting to have a question on the economy in the House of Commons, more than a week after we tabled budget 2010.
  14. misdirected
    The BudgetJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Accuses the member of using talking points and supplies an unrelated economist quote instead of addressing the apology request.I see that the hon. member for Markham—Unionville is using the same talking points he used on the CBC last night, verbatim.
  15. deflected
    PensionsMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Welcomes the member sarcastically and highlights Liberal inaction instead of responding to the proposed reforms.welcome to the file. The Liberals are finally waking up
  16. deflected
    PensionsMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Defends by listing past changes and claims no suggestions from opposition rather than addressing the call for reform.We have received nothing in the form of good suggestions from the opposition.
  17. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Robert Carrier (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps jurisdiction claim by restating non-mandatory participation.the provinces are not required to participate. If they do not want to, they will not be required.
  18. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Robert Carrier (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids jurisdiction issue by repeating non-mandatory participation and personal anecdotes.I repeat, Quebec will not be required to join the commission if it chooses not to.
  19. partly answered
    AfghanistanMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses actions taken but ignores NATO comparison and indifference claim.we acted on the advice of senior officials to put in place a new transfer arrangement that improved upon the arrangement that was lacking
  20. misdirected
    AfghanistanMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks asker as playing politics and quotes a Liberal instead of addressing the transfer motive.
  21. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer covers priority processing but omits Quebec flexibility and Canada-Quebec agreement.this government has acted. Immediately after the earthquake hit Haiti, this government insisted that all of the sponsorship cases in the queue at the Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration be removed from that queue
  22. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores specific Quebec-Ontario disparity and pivots to general Haiti response.there is no way we can treat one country in one circumstance differently from another country in a different circumstance.
  23. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses asker of playing politics rather than explaining fund status or matching donations.I regret that the member has decided to play politics on the back of the Haitian disaster.
  24. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). loaded question.Answer quotes Haitian president and attacks asker instead of clarifying fund disbursement timeline.Shame on that member for playing politics on this issue.
  25. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer disputes facts and pivots to unrelated green investments without addressing the tax giveaway claim.the member has his facts simply wrong.
  26. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists prior spending but ignores the specific cuts to tidal and ecoEnergy programs mentioned.We put $1.5 billion into energy for renewable power, which the member mentioned.
  27. partly answered
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites existing aerospace support but does not address the lack of new targeted budget measures for Quebec SMEs.our government has actively supported the aerospace sector since coming to power.
  28. partly answered
    Shipbuilding IndustryMr. Robert Vincent (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes ongoing consultations but offers no immediate support policy for the laid-off Quebec workers.we are currently taking part in a consultation process with stakeholders from the shipbuilding industry.
  29. misdirected
    TaxationNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberals' past record instead of addressing the minister's own prior statements on payroll taxes.It is quite hypocritical for that member and the leader of Liberal Party to suggest that there is an issue with that
  30. misdirected
    TaxationNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to past Liberal EI raids rather than responding to the minister's quoted criticism of payroll tax hikes.What we will not do is what the Liberals did in the past, which is raid the EI account to the tune of about $50 billion for pet political projects.
  31. deflected
    The BudgetMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes national job gains and a Hamilton health facility but does not address the specific Siemens layoffs or promised worker supports.There were 21,000 new jobs in February alone.
  32. partly answered
    TransportMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). substantive question.Answer points to existing federal infrastructure offers but does not commit new funding or confirm Ontario involvement for the railway.we offered the provinces $175 million to fund important projects, such as water, roads and, yes, even rail.
  33. deflected
    Status of WomenWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer sidesteps the demand to remove the minister by instructing critics to accept an apology instead.it is time for the hon. member and, indeed, all members to accept the minister's sincere apology.
  34. deflected
    International TradeMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the Colombia deal and its benefits but ignores the question's focus on human rights concerns and the Jordan alternative.It is a good agreement for Quebec workers.
  35. deflected
    Violence in SportsMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the Olympics and NHL actions but never addresses the request for a royal commission or government leadership.When it comes to sport, I think that people should play to win, they should play for fun and they should respect each other.