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Thursday, May 28, 2009 · sitting No. 63
Commons debates fisheries estimates during extended supply proceedings
The House spent most of the day in committee of the whole considering all votes under Fisheries and Oceans as part of the business of supply. The debate proceeded under Standing Order 81(4)(a) and a motion adopted by unanimous consent on May 26 with members allocated 15 minutes each.
In question period Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government on a ballooning deficit that the finance minister now projects above $50 billion. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the Liberal record featured deficits followed by spending cuts and tax increases during recession.
New Democrat leader Jack Layton questioned bonuses paid to executives of the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board after the plan recorded losses of $24 billion. Harper said remuneration decisions rest with the board and not the federal government.
Decided that day
- Bill S-2 advanced one stage
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Who held the floor · 2009-05-28
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Nuclear Liability and Compensation Act
New Democrat MP Jim Maloway said repeated elections have delayed progress on Bill C-20 and urged the House to finish committee study before another dissolution. Conservative MP Mike Wallace clarified that commercial reactors are owned and operated by the provinces.
Read the exchangeMedical Isotopes
Bloc Québécois MP Luc Malo asked how privatization of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited would resolve the isotope shortage. Natural Resources minister Lisa Raitt said an expert panel will review private-sector proposals and report in the fall.
Read the exchangeOmar Khadr
Bloc Québécois MP Ève-Mary Thaï Thi Lac cited an Amnesty International report and urged action on the repatriation of Omar Khadr. Parliamentary secretary Deepak Obhrai said the government will await the outcome of the United States review.
Read the exchangeDemocratic Reform
Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson asked about legislation limiting new senators to one eight-year term. Minister of State Steven Fletcher said the bill creates a single ethics officer for both houses while preserving Senate input on appointments.
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- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper attacks Ignatieff's spending demands instead of addressing the deficit size or timeline.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper restates past Liberal record rather than explaining how the current deficit will be short-term.
Liberals got this country into deficits when borrowing was at record levels, and then when recession came, they were cutting the unemployed and raising taxes right in the middle of a recession, something this party will never do.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper quotes an editorial to imply opposition hypocrisy instead of defending government credibility on the deficit.
The editorial in the Toronto Star goes on to say it is time to have a real conversation.
- misdirectedThe EconomyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Flaherty calls opponents hypocrites and references their vote rather than addressing structural changes or pre-recession deficit.
There is a serious global recession that is deeper and broader than had been anticipated by anyone, and the hypocrites on the other side come in every day and ask for more spending, more deficits--
- answeredCanada Pension Plan Investment BoardRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Flaherty directly states the government's position against political interference in CPP bonuses.
we do not believe in political interference in the Canada pension plan.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper notes changes to EI benefits but pivots to attacking Bloc opposition instead of outlining further actions.
the Bloc Québécois is opposed to these benefits to the unemployed.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper repeats EI improvements and labels Bloc position ideological rather than engaging with specific proposals.
Ours is a realistic position for all the people, unlike the ideological opposition of the Bloc Québécois.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.Gourde lists existing measures and notes Bloc opposition instead of addressing the claim of double-counting the $500 million.
All of these measures were not supported by the Bloc Québécois.
- deflectedThe EconomyMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the EI policy question entirely and instead attacks the Bloc's ideology.
nothing is harder than being hopeful when you share the Bloc's ideology.
- answeredCanada Pension Plan Investment BoardJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains that the CPP is independent and the government does not make those decisions.
that is not a decision that the government makes.
- answeredCanada Pension Plan Investment BoardJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the question by correcting facts and reiterating that remuneration is a board decision, not the government's.
The board is responsible independently for remuneration for the management of the plan.
- deflectedCanada Pension Plan Investment BoardJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the bonus issue and instead attacks the NDP's political alliances.
the NDP is once again seeming to take credit for Liberal questions in question period.
- misdirectedMinister of FinanceMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals' past record and hypocrisy rather than addressing the minister's competence.
this is coming from a party with a hypocritical position.
- misdirectedMinister of FinanceMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking past Liberal governments instead of responding to the deficit accusation.
what Liberal governments did to the sick, the elderly and public education in the 1990s
- misdirectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's past record on deficits rather than explaining the changed numbers.
I pay attention to the questions from one of the leading Canadian experts in deficits
- deflectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the changed numbers and instead asks about the member's position on auto support.
I would be interested in knowing the member's position on that.
- deflectedMedical IsotopesMr. Luc Malo (Bloc) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes restructuring and a panel review but never links privatization to resolving the isotope shortage.
The second part of the announcement today was the announcement that we have appointed an expert review panel to take a look at the numerous proposals that we have received upon our call in December of last year to a response regarding medical isotopes for the future.
- deflectedMedical IsotopesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to selling reactors and jobs without addressing whether privatization solves the isotope crisis.
I would like to thank the member for her question because a fundamental part of the restructuring is for Canada to be able to take advantage of the nuclear renaissance in selling nuclear reactors in the world that is currently happening so that we can have a better Canadian industry, with high paid, high skilled jobs, and a developing and growing industry.
- answeredOmar KhadrMrs. Ève-Mary Thaï Thi Lac (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the unchanged government position on Khadr and ties it to awaiting the U.S. review.
There has been no change in our position in reference to Mr. Omar Khadr.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges concern and points to Bill C-8 but offers no broader concrete measures on missing and murdered aboriginal women.
one of the things we can do to help aboriginal women today is to move ahead with Bill C-8 to finally protect, for the first time ever, the matrimonial property rights that every other Canadian woman takes for granted.
- misdirectedGovernment AssetsMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims no plans exist rather than addressing the asset-sale commitment or timing.
at present we have no plans in that regard.
- partly answeredGovernment AssetsMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms a review process and no fire sales but does not explain how the $10 billion target will be met without a list of assets.
- deflectedThe EconomyKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists training spending without addressing why stimulus or EI changes were not pursued earlier.
we have invested a significant number of dollars to help those who qualify for EI and those who do not qualify for EI by investing half a billion dollars in training for long-tenured workers, helping 40,000 Canadians, and $1.5 billion in training for those on EI and those who do not qualify.
- misdirectedThe EconomyKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner as hypocritical instead of addressing the deficit record or stimulus adequacy.
since when does the member opposite take this hypocritical position?
- deflectedAtomic Energy of Canada LimitedMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes the review and restructuring but pivots to attacking the NDP's stance on nuclear power instead of addressing the timing of privatization.
However, I do want to point out that the NDP does not support the nuclear industry.
- misdirectedAtomic Energy of Canada LimitedMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question by insulting the member's reading habits rather than engaging the substance of liabilities or timing.
However, we all know that the NDP do not actually read things before they make decisions on them.
- partly answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses short-term relief options via loans and credit but does not confirm new government emergency measures.
In discussions with the provinces, I know that the provincial loan boards and some banks are providing flexibility for some short-term relief.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing supports but ends by attacking the member's voting record instead of committing to new short-term actions.
I must add that the member has a number of small craft harbours in his riding and he voted against money to fix them.
- answeredFinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer directly rebuts the premise by citing IMF data on debt reduction and Canada's G7 position.
as the International Monetary Fund noted on Friday, our government paid off about $40 billion in debt in the first three years of our mandate.
- deflectedFinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the past Ontario budget then quotes media criticism of the opposition rather than addressing the federal debt timeline.
The opposition should get a grip on itself. The deficit is a direct result of the global recession, nor is the new deficit projection out of line with the outlook in other countries.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the court order by confirming CSIS will comply and noting it self-reported the issue.
In fact, it was CSIS that noticed the discrepancy and reported it to the court.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the prior statement on compliance but does not address the broader claim about secret trials or constitutional rights.
CSIS does take the recent Federal Court order very seriously and does intend to comply with it.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific claims about cuts and the minister's competence by noting shifting opposition criticisms instead.
Question period is almost over, and it started with a condemnation over the deficit.
- answeredMilitary Training at BordenMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly lists concrete steps taken to address French-language training deficiencies at Borden.
The Canadian Forces are working hard to remedy the situation at Canadian Forces Base Borden, and they have taken a number of specific and immediate steps to support both official languages.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the barge situation by citing official reports and the chosen course of action despite the loaded premise.
Two reports have concluded that the barge poses no serious threat to the environment and leaving it intact is the best course of action at this time.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the week's business but defers and does not fully specify the requested supply days or probation report timing.
Before I get to his specific questions, perhaps we will revert to the more traditional response, which is to lay out the anticipated business for the week ahead.