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Tuesday, March 3, 2009 · sitting No. 22
Commons advances budget bill after report-stage motion passes
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on debate at report stage of Bill C-10, the budget implementation act. Government House leader Gordon O'Connor secured consent for a motion that deemed all questions at report stage put and recorded divisions deferred to later the same day.
Liberal MP Judy Sgro said the bill would return Canada to large deficits and warned that any amendments would trigger an election. NDP MP Paul Dewar pressed for removal of provisions on pay equity and public-service agreements, while NDP MP Bruce Hyer objected to changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act.
In Question Period, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the Prime Minister for a clearer definition of the economic crisis and details on an additional three billion dollars in spending. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe questioned federal support for the forestry sector and loan guarantees.
Decided that day
- Bill C-10 passed
- Amendments deleting clauses 394, 383, 358, 317, 445, 295 and 6 defeated
- Motion on efficient government operations passed
- Bills S-229 and C-333 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2009-03-03
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Employment Insurance
Bloc Québécois MP Yves Lessard called for elimination of the waiting period for benefits, saying the government had a moral obligation after drawing fifty-four billion dollars from the fund. Human Resources Minister Diane Finley replied that the government had instead extended eligibility by five weeks at the end of the benefit period.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
Liberal MP Bob Rae asked whether the defence minister still believed Canada could not abandon its leadership role until Afghanistan was free of Taliban influence. Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Prime Minister Stephen Harper defended the mission's transition toward development and Afghan self-reliance.
Read the exchangeTaxation
Bloc Québécois MP Jean-Yves Laforest accused the government of allowing companies to use tax havens for double interest deductions. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said the measures followed recommendations of the Godsoe panel on competitiveness.
Read the exchangeInfrastructure
Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy said the government had delivered only five per cent of promised infrastructure funds and called for a more direct transfer to municipalities. Infrastructure Minister John Baird defended the record of project announcements in Ontario and cooperation with the provincial government.
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- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer clarifies a quote but avoids stating whether the PM's view of the crisis has changed.
If the hon. member were to look closely at the transcript of that interview, he would see that I was speaking specifically of the mortgage sector.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer points to the budget plan and attacks the opposition for inconsistency instead of defining the crisis.
Last week the Liberals wanted to delay passage of the estimates, now they say they should be passed as quickly as possible.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer names the purpose of the funds but urges quick action without listing specific programs.
these funds are obviously for the implementation of budget 2009, including infrastructure funding for the summer construction period.
- misdirectedThe EconomyJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Question attacks the minister's credibility with loaded premise; answer responds by attacking Liberal delay instead of addressing confidence.
The Liberal opposition members said they were going to support it.
- deflectedThe EconomyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.Statement is not a question and answer continues prior point without engaging.
--including the Canadians who live in Wascana.
- partly answeredThe EconomyJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the recession and need for stimulus but does not explain the lack of an earlier plan.
It is important that we get the money out there working for Canadians.
- answeredForestry IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly cites the softwood lumber agreement as the reason loan guarantees are not provided.
the leader of the Bloc should know that the agreement with the United States forbids direct subsidies to companies in this industry.
- misdirectedForestry IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc for division rather than addressing the tribunal ruling or penalties.
once again the Bloc is trying to divide Canadians, setting Ontario against Quebec.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to five weeks of benefits instead of addressing the waiting period.
Why can he not accept these five weeks as an answer?
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats the five-week extension without addressing the waiting period or moral obligation.
That is why we have added five weeks at the end of the employment insurance benefit period.
- misdirectedThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the NDP's vote rather than explaining accountability for the $3 billion fund.
The New Democratic Party decided to vote against the budget before reading it.
- misdirectedThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer insults the member and NDP record instead of addressing accountability mechanisms.
Now it is just against everything.
- deflectedThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims consultation occurred but does not address specific accountability proposals like Auditor General pre-approval.
we have consulted the Auditor General.
- answeredAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly affirms the prior statement and outlines the approach.
Absolutely, Mr. Speaker. I stand by that statement.
- misdirectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the member's past position instead of reconciling the statements on Afghanistan.
It is quite ironic to have a member of Parliament who was demanding that Canada pull out of Afghanistan last year now wondering why we are pulling out three years from now.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes Liberal support for the mission but does not define the new tipping point.
The feigned indignation belies the fact that the member and members of the Liberal Party voted to support the extension of the mission.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises troops and the mission without addressing specific activities until 2011 or the premise of giving up the fight.
our Prime Minister supports the mission in Afghanistan.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references a report and budget but does not address sanctions, double deductions, or help for industries and unemployed.
we commissioned a report, led by Peter Godsoe, the former CEO of the Bank of Nova Scotia, on this subject and the budget follows the recommendations of the report.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the panel's recommendations on competitiveness without addressing double deductions or indifference to crisis victims.
the Godsoe panel took the time to examine what is in fact the practice of different countries worldwide and recommended to the government, particularly, in this time of recession, that the government take the action, which we did in the budget, in the best interests of the competitive position of Canada.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes Canada's role in Afghanistan but does not address raising a full review of NATO intervention at the summit.
Canada is in Afghanistan in response to the request by the democratically elected government of Afghanistan, in order to help the Afghans to rebuild the country into a stable, democratic and self-sufficient society.
- answeredNATOMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly engages the proposal by expressing confidence in discussing broader regional support at the NATO meeting.
It is an opportunity to hold a clear and very important discussion in order to attract more support for this mission.
- partly answeredSoftwood LumberMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes the agreement and dispute mechanism but does not explain the tax payment to forestry workers or address the sell-out claim.
we have an agreement with the United States.
- partly answeredSoftwood LumberMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the dispute mechanism and industry support but does not directly address explaining the tax to unemployed workers.
We intend to do that and we intend to work with the provinces to see how this can be repaid in a way that does not hurt them.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights provincial project announcements but does not address changing methods or the 5% delivery failure nationwide.
in the member's province we are moving very aggressively to get infrastructure projects started.
- misdirectedInfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker personally instead of addressing infrastructure funding transfer.
The member ran against Dalton McGuinty. He has never been supportive of him.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses consultation efforts but dismisses the premise without fully engaging the budget cut claim.
It is true that we are working with first nations on the Indian government support programs.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the pension liability claim by repeating general consultation talking points.
maybe I should speak in even more of a whisper to talk about the secrets.
- answeredSeal HuntMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the government's plan to defend the seal hunt with facts in international discussions.
We will continue to inform international discussions with factual material.
- answeredSeal HuntMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the call for an information campaign by outlining ongoing efforts in Europe and at home.
We will continue our efforts in Europe to ensure that the facts are known about the Canadian seal hunt
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores consultation and apology questions to attack the asker on an unrelated seal hunt issue.
does he support Warren Kinsella and the position that a Liberal Party senator holds to ban the seal hunt in Canada?
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats consultation details while mocking the asker instead of addressing non-optional changes or accountability.
there is that old saying on the preacher's note, "unsure of point, must yell louder".
- partly answeredCanadian ForcesMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the backlog and staff efforts but pivots to asking for a budget vote.
we have taken on additional staff. Very dedicated public servants are working overtime to see that we deal with the backlog.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains general measures taken but avoids addressing the specific wait-time statistics or a timeline for resolution.
I have always believed that using the wrong statistics is nothing but scaremongering.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to prior Liberal inaction and budget measures instead of addressing the Human Rights Commission case or dismissal attempt.
what we found when we came to office was that there was not a single child and family service agreement with the provinces and first nations in this country.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the general permit process and revocation power but does not confirm any action on the specific case mentioned.
If we find out that there is a criminal record, the minister has the power to revoke the permit.
- partly answeredIndustryMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges monitoring and expectations but sidesteps enforcement of the no-layoff agreement with sarcasm toward the asker.
I guess one has to be a member of the NDP caucus to think $300 million of extra investment is somehow a disaster for Sudbury and for miners.