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Friday, February 27, 2009 · sitting No. 20
Bloc and NDP seek to delete clauses from budget bill as house debates implementation
The House devoted the largest share of its time to government orders on the Budget Implementation Act 2009. Bloc Québécois MP Mario Laframboise moved six motions to delete clauses including clause 6 on tax havens while NDP MP Thomas Mulcair moved ten motions to delete clauses 445 through 454. Debate focused on the absence of job protections and the retention of provisions allowing use of tax havens.
In question period Liberal MP Bob Rae pressed the government on cuts to research funding and transfers to the CBC. Conservative MP Vic Toews said no cuts had been made to the CBC and that the government remained committed to scientific research. Liberal MP John McCallum questioned the scope of a three-billion-dollar spending authority while Conservative MP Ted Menzies defended the measure as necessary to advance stimulus spending.
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Budget Implementation Act, 2009
NDP MP Peter Stoffer asked NDP MP Thomas Mulcair to explain changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act and Mulcair replied that the act and the Boundary Waters Treaty have protected Canadian waterways for more than a century.
Read the exchangeAccess to Information
Bloc Québécois MP Serge Ménard said the Information Commissioner’s report confirmed a culture of secrecy and Conservative MP Vic Toews replied that decisions on releases are made by public servants not political staff.
Read the exchangeAgriculture
Liberal MP Wayne Easter said the government had delivered only three million dollars of twelve million promised to Prince Edward Island potato producers and Conservative MP Pierre Lemieux said more than one point two billion dollars had gone to livestock producers in two years.
Read the exchangeTackling Violent Crime
Liberal MP John McKay said cuts of twenty-nine million dollars from the RCMP and twelve million from the Canada Border Services Agency left Canadians less safe and Conservative MP Dave MacKenzie said the RCMP had added almost sixteen hundred officers.
Read the exchangeCriminal Code
Conservative MP Joy Smith introduced Bill C-268 to impose minimum sentences for trafficking of persons under eighteen and said precedents exist in the United States and Australia.
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- deflectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids the specific cut by claiming no cuts overall and blaming opposition delays.
We made a public statement that there will be no cutting in the budget and I will stand by that statement.
- misdirectedResearch and DevelopmentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner's facts instead of addressing the listed research cuts.
I think the member has his facts wrong.
- answeredCanadian Broadcasting CorporationBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly denies the claimed CBC cuts and states the funding amount.
I can reassure the hon. member that there will be no funding cuts to the CBC.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reframes to stimulus timing and opposition demands rather than addressing expanded discretion.
the stimulus of $3 billion and the moving up of the expenditure of that money from the June date to the April date is exactly in response to demands from the opposition
- misdirectedGovernment ExpendituresJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the Fiscal Monitor timing accusation and attacks opposition for delaying stimulus.
Let me get back to what is important to Canadians, which is to get on with the $6 billion of stimulus to the Canadian economy that is being held up by the opposition slowing it up.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats earlier point on timing and controls while attacking coalition instead of justifying lack of new controls.
The same controls apply to this.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior response on criteria without engaging Gomery reference or new guidelines.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats the same criteria claim while dismissing the question as pre-written.
I can understand that the member wrote her question before I gave the last answer, so I will just repeat the last answer.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question of criteria and controls by suggesting briefings and making a sarcastic remark about Liberals.
If the Bloc member can rest assured that having a Liberal probation officer is a sufficient criteria, I think we are in good shape here.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the Auditor General reference and sponsorship comparison by accusing the asker of inconsistency instead of addressing the issue.
He is simply speaking out of both sides of his mouth.
- misdirectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the recovery.gov question and instead attacks the opposition while pivoting to an unrelated document.
While I am on my feet, in answering a previous question I suggested that "The Fiscal Monitor" would be out soon.
- partly answeredGovernment ExpendituresMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the parliamentary vote and reporting mechanism but does not fully explain how spending will be tracked without specific legislation.
There will be a vote in the House and that there will be regular reporting to Parliament because the Liberals have put our government on probation.
- deflectedAgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific failures cited and instead lists unrelated spending figures without addressing delivery shortfalls.
In the last two years, we delivered over $1.2 billion to livestock producers through our new business risk management programs
- answeredFisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Mr. John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the $40 million difference as deferrals for mid-shore patrol vessels and confirms industry notification.
The main reason for that difference is some movement and transfer of moneys from this fiscal year to next the fiscal year to deal with the issue of the mid-shore patrol vessels.
- deflectedArts and CultureMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer avoids the CBC and NAC funding cuts by pivoting to a general claim about budget spending without addressing the specific shortfalls.
I encourage the member to read budget 2009, our economic action plan, a budget that puts more money behind arts and culture than any budget in the history of Canada
- deflectedArts and CultureMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids current CBC funding issues by attacking past Liberal cuts instead of addressing asset sales or programming reductions.
A direct hit would be like what the Liberals did in 1995 when they slashed CBC's funding by 40% in the 1995 budget.
- deflectedAccess to InformationMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the claim of PMO-driven secrecy by emphasizing departmental processes and request volume increases.
The decision to release or protect information is not driven by the political people.
- misdirectedAccess to InformationMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the questioner's party for past opposition instead of addressing current leadership or processing delays.
as I recall, it was that member and his party, along with Liberals and New Democrats, who opposed the opening up of the Access to Information Act
- deflectedConservative GovernmentMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to defending the fund's purpose and blaming the Bloc for delays rather than addressing secrecy allegations.
It is the members of the Bloc Québécois who are stifling our ability to get the money out.
- partly answeredConservative GovernmentMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses transparency concerns by confirming reporting requirements but avoids explaining refusal to amend the Act or listen to commissioners.
It removes none of the criteria and the reporting that this government needs to make to the Parliament of Canada
- deflectedAirport SecurityGurbax Malhi (Liberal) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer stresses commitment to security without addressing the specific subsidy cuts or resulting costs to travelers.
We are reviewing all security measures to ensure that when passengers get on planes they are secure and safe when they travel in this country.
- deflectedTackling Violent CrimeJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights officer additions and new legislation but sidesteps the budget cut figures and public safety perception.
in actual fact, the RCMP have added almost 1,600 officers to the street in the last year.
- answeredMunicipal AffairsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms ongoing cooperation and that the minister will not avoid testifying via privilege.
- misdirectedMunicipal AffairsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The response reiterates cooperation but ends by challenging the asker to make allegations outside the House instead of answering the yes/no question.
If my hon. colleague across the way has any specific allegations concerning my colleague, make them outside.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as irrational and pivots to unrelated spending without addressing pollution or cancer.
those are irrational allegations.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Mr. John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to inherited problems and attacks the opposition instead of addressing consultation failures.
The NDP and the opposition parties are erecting blockades.
- answeredEducationMr. Nicolas Dufour (Bloc) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains increased funding across areas while noting the business scholarship addition requested by stakeholders.
More scholarships are available to more graduate students from all areas of study.
- misdirectedEducationMr. Nicolas Dufour (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the research funding question entirely and attacks the Bloc over unrelated past spending.
the Bloc likes to talk about the use of the state's financial resources.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states that allegations are investigated seriously but provides no timeline or specific actions taken.
Any allegation of wrongdoing is taken very seriously and thoroughly investigated.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites the Privacy Act to avoid details instead of addressing when the government learned of the breach.
Under the terms of the Privacy Act, we cannot release any personal information about employees
- misdirectedAccess to InformationMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the member's past votes rather than confirming whether the open government act promise will be fulfilled.
The member consistently fought against access to information for crown corporations.
- partly answeredCanada PostMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the report will be released soon after review but gives no firm date or reason for the delay.
We will make the appropriate response at the appropriate time and allow it to go public very soon.
- deflectedHealthShawn Murphy (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights ongoing research funding without addressing the ignored motion or providing any timeline.
I can assure the House that the government is showing leadership by focusing attention on building the autism evidence base that future actions by our partners will be well informed.
- answeredDurban Review ConferenceMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rejects participation without evasion or redirection.
Mr. Speaker, the answer is no.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists general environmental spending instead of addressing the specific dam project or notifying the U.S.
Wherever we look this government is taking action on the environment.
- deflectedAccess to InformationMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes past legislation without agreeing with the commissioner or committing to new reforms.
We brought in the FAA, which contains the most extensive amendments to the Access to Information Act since its introduction in 1983.
- partly answeredBashir MakhtalMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details representations made and legal access but does not address the call to request dropping all charges.
Canada has repeatedly made its concerns regarding Mr. Makhtal's case clear to the Government of Ethiopia.
- misdirectedSecuritiesMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc and a member personally instead of addressing the securities commission or Quebec jurisdiction.
We heard earlier today a member of the Bloc demand that we attend the Durban hatefest, the anti-Israel conference.