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Thursday, February 12, 2009 · sitting No. 14

Budget bill debate leads Commons sitting as parties clash on climate

The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-10, the budget implementation act. New Democratic Party MP John Rafferty criticized the inclusion of changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act and other measures he called ideological riders unrelated to stimulus. Liberal MP Derek Lee said he would support the bill despite its imperfections because it forms part of the government's stimulus effort.

In Question Period, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on whether Canada would match stricter American climate targets during President Obama's visit. Harper replied that opposition targets were unrealistic and that the government's approach aligned closely with that of the United States. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe demanded cancellation of the proposed Canada Prizes for the Arts and redirection of the funds to existing cultural programs.

Decided that day

  • Bill passed third reading and sent for royal assent
  • Supplementary Estimates (B) for 2008-09 concurred in
  • Bill C-12 granted supply and passed second reading
  • Several private members' bills introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2009-02-12

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 27%, opposition 73% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Bills Advance, Supply ApprovedThe House devoted most of its time to substantive business and passed several measures, including third reading of a bill and concurrence in supplementary estimates. A few points of order and incomplete answers in question period occurred but did not dominate proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Bouchard introduced debate on Bill C-4 to modernize the Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act and said classification of organizations remained a flaw requiring clarification in committee.

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Automotive Industry

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper to tell President Obama that the U.S. auto rescue package must not draw jobs and mandates out of Canada.

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Aerospace Industry

Liberal MP Alexandra Mendes listed recent layoffs at Pratt & Whitney, Bell Helicopter and Bombardier and asked Industry Minister Tony Clement whether the sector required special federal aid.

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Forestry Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Bouchard quoted the Prime Minister's 2006 call for loan guarantees and asked the government to act for the forestry industry.

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Foreign Affairs

Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête urged the Prime Minister to discuss repatriation of Omar Khadr with President Obama, calling it a moral duty.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Automotive IndustryMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses collaboration but avoids committing to telling the president not to suck jobs out.it is not a question of dictating outcomes to the United States.
  2. deflected
    Canada-U.S. BorderMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Shifts focus to actions of the previous government instead of proposing specific measures.it was under the preceding government that the border was tightened
  3. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Discusses targets but rejects opposition ideas rather than confirming support for US initiatives.the climate change targets the opposition wants are completely unrealistic
  4. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks opposition targets instead of explaining the government's plan for negotiations.
  5. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Turns question back on member with accusations about ecoTrust rather than addressing cap and trade.I would ask the member here in the House if he could share with the House any specific accusations of fraud
  6. deflected
    CultureMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks Bloc opposition instead of addressing cancellation or fund transfer.the Bloc always opposes any initiative that strengthens Canada.
  7. deflected
    CultureMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Focuses on Bloc voting record rather than justifying management or project status.the only justifying here is being done by the Bloc leader
  8. deflected
    CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the demand for analyses and instead quotes media praise while attacking the opposition.Artists in this country are receiving more support from this government than from any government in Canadian history.
  9. deflected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids explaining why Canada lacks a buy-domestic policy and pivots to criticizing NDP on the budget.Not only did the NDP oppose the budget before even reading it, but that party is trying to stall its passing.
  10. misdirected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer calls the question ridiculous and repeats budget criticism instead of addressing Canadian firms being shut out of U.S. bids.this is absolutely a ridiculous accusation from the NDP.
  11. misdirected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists budget measures but ends by attacking the NDP coalition instead of addressing the Xstrata agreement breach.These are what is important for the Canadian economy and Canadian families, not the hon. member's pet undemocratic coalition that nobody voted for.
  12. partly answered
    Aerospace IndustryMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges challenges and cites SADI funding but does not directly address whether special aid is needed beyond existing programs.However, we have already announced $900 million for the aerospace industry through SADI.
  13. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats general support claims and notes the member voted for the budget rather than outlining new actions to protect jobs.The hon. member voted for the budget. I expect that she will be telling that to her constituents as well.
  14. partly answered
    TradeScott Brison (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims progress on ITAR but condescends about the member's knowledge instead of listing specific actions taken with Obama administration.if my hon. friend could get up to speed on some of these issues, it would help us to move them forward.
  15. deflected
    Canada-U.S. BorderMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disputes the premise of inaction but provides no concrete submissions or actions taken with the Obama administration.I had a very constructive discussion with the homeland secretary and we discussed the importance of our common interests both in border security and in trade.
  16. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights existing funding and positive job news instead of addressing the specific request for $200 million.we have already announced $900 million for the aerospace industry through the strategic aerospace and defence initiative, or SADI, and the Canada First defence strategy.
  17. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists general economic measures without addressing the call for refundable R&D credits or equivalent auto-industry support.Canada's economic action plan also increases our support to all industries, including the aerospace and aviation industry.
  18. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites arbitration risks and avoids committing to loan guarantees for the forestry sector.Given that the loan guarantees offered by Ontario and Quebec are at this time the subject of an arbitration procedure with the United States, it would be inappropriate to comment on the interpretation of those agreements.
  19. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the need to preserve the softwood agreement and does not engage the request for loan guarantees.It is extremely important for us to preserve this agreement and ensure that our workers continue to export their lumber to our main economic partner, the United States.
  20. partly answered
    Arts and CultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer clarifies that the listed proposal is not government policy and notes the prize funding is in the budget.When we come forward with the policy, my hon. colleague will be able to rise in the House and actually speak to it with a little bit more acuity.
  21. partly answered
    Arts and CultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the budget commitment and dismisses the opposition while avoiding details on the disputed program.There is one proposal out there that is getting debate. It is not our proposal.
  22. partly answered
    National DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the cost overrun and states that the matter is under review.we are aware of the costs associated with this particular project and we are looking into how this has occurred.
  23. partly answered
    National DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms departmental competence and ongoing reviews without addressing the specific risk findings.I give my friend the assurance that we are looking into this.
  24. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes government's system instead of addressing savings or opposition to pay equity.We brought forward a proactive system to ensure women would receive equity in the workforce on a timely basis.
  25. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats support for closing gap without addressing fines, complaints procedure or pay equity bureau.Each of us in the economy, whether it is a union or an employer, has a positive obligation to ensure that women receive equity in the workforce.
  26. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates unchanged position and monitoring without addressing moral duty or repatriation request.our position regarding Mr. Khadr remains unchanged.
  27. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats Khadr position instead of addressing cultural convention or Obama meeting agenda.Our position regarding Mr. Khadr remains unchanged.
  28. deflected
    Foreign AffairsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids yes/no on protocol compliance and repeats monitoring statement.
  29. deflected
    Foreign AffairsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer redirects to American government and repeats monitoring without answering protocol question.he should be asking the American government that question.
  30. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges cost expansion and review process but does not address report censorship or full release.This particular contract has expanded in its costs and we are examining it.
  31. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims transparency but attacks member for not asking at committee instead of releasing report or explaining cost increase.She had an opportunity to ask questions about this when I appeared this week before the committee on supplementary estimates and she asked nothing about it.
  32. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the crisis and commits to long-term work but does not confirm action on the specific proposal from Eskasoni.I am committed to working with the community on a short-term and long-term basis, and will be in contact with the community on an ongoing basis.
  33. deflected
    TransportationMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights VIA Rail funding and criticizes the NDP instead of addressing funding for AMT rail lines.The NDP obviously is not. It is unfortunate that all parties of this House are not excited to get this action plan done
  34. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reaffirms the tampering claim rather than withdrawing allegations or apologizing to the journalist.it is clear, in fact, that the tape was tampered.
  35. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Bill Casey (Independent) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms no evidence of wrongdoing but does not release names of those involved in distributing the accusations.the RCMP looked into this matter and made it clear that there was no evidence of any wrongdoing with regard to the member for Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley
  36. partly answered
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines upcoming bills and votes but omits specific supply days and the tabling date for the budgetary report.In a few moments we will be voting on the second reading stage of Bill C-10, the budget implementation act.