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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 · sitting No. 12

Commons advances budget implementation act after committee reports

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on second reading of the budget implementation act. Bloc Québécois MP Monique Guay said the bill lacked exceptional measures for Quebec and Canada during the economic crisis. NDP MP Claude Gravelle asked how Liberal women could support provisions he said harmed women.

Liberal MP Hedy Fry said the bill came too late and was too small for the recession but noted positive elements including infrastructure spending and aid for universities and housing. She defended past Liberal employment insurance changes against Bloc Québécois MP Guy André.

In question period Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government on whether further stimulus would follow the budget. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government would not change policy weekly and invited the opposition to offer concrete suggestions.

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Who held the floor · 2009-02-10

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 21%, opposition 79% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
66Bills Pile Up While Answers EvadeThe House spent most of its time on the Budget Implementation Act and introduced a dozen new bills, with nearly all debate devoted to substantive business. Question Period produced few direct answers and the Speaker issued several calls to order, yet no votes were held.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Aerospace Industry

Liberal MP Denis Coderre said Quebec aerospace had lost 26,000 jobs and the promised $200 million strategic aerospace and defence initiative was missing from the budget. Industry Minister Tony Clement said $900 million had already been announced through SADI and the Canada First defence strategy.

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Forestry Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Jean-Yves Laforest asked why the government refused loan guarantees for Quebec forestry despite record layoffs. Natural Resources Minister Denis Lebel said programs for training, work sharing and housing were already in place while respecting trade agreements.

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Employment Insurance

Liberal MP Michael Savage asked at what benefit level employment insurance became too lucrative after the minister warned against making it attractive. Human Resources Minister Diane Finley said the government had added five weeks of benefits and expanded training instead.

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Foreign Affairs

Liberal MP Bob Rae asked whether Canada was discussing with the United States the return of Omar Khadr from Guantanamo. Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said Canada was not participating in such talks and would wait for the new U.S. process to conclude.

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Pay Equity

NDP MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis accused the government of killing pay equity by removing access to the Human Rights Commission. Treasury Board President Vic Toews said the changes would resolve complaints faster than the 15-year waits seen under the previous system.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the policy clarity question by attacking the questioner's consistency instead.I can assure him that both I and the Minister of Finance agree that we do not change budgetary policy once a week.
  2. partly answered
    The BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response acknowledges monitoring future developments while reiterating commitment to the existing plan.Obviously, we will see how things unfold in the months to come.
  3. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific Investment Canada guarantee and pivots to general negotiations and the downturn.The Minister of Industry is in negotiations with this company in order to ensure that jobs are preserved in the long term.
  4. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites existing programs but does not address the missing $200 million election promise.We have, however, already announced $900 million for the aerospace industry, through the strategic aerospace and defence initiative, or SADI, and the Canada First defence strategy.
  5. misdirected
    Aerospace IndustryDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question and sarcastically predicts future applause rather than addressing spinoffs.I am sure the hon. member will be the first hon. member to stand up in the House and applaud when those new jobs are announced.
  6. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims commitments are being kept but cites unrelated investments instead of the promised $200 million.The government has invested $350 million in the CSeries alone, and there are other investments to come.
  7. misdirected
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc's motives and cites a space agency announcement instead of addressing the aerospace funding disparity.Yesterday in Montreal, the Minister of Industry announced a major investment in the Canadian Space Agency.
  8. answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly cites industry opinion that loan guarantees would risk violating the softwood lumber agreement.Avrim Lazar, the president of the Forest Products Association of Canada said that it is not perfect, but that anything the government does could risk new problems at the border.
  9. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists unrelated programs and criticizes the asker instead of addressing loan guarantees.While the Bloc Québécois keeps on criticizing, we, the government, are taking action.
  10. partly answered
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains differences in plans but does not address the proportional scale comparison.our situation and that of the United States, and consequently our respective plans, are different.
  11. deflected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends past actions and contrasts with the US without admitting shortfall or committing to more stimulus.Those stimulus measures are certainly equal to what any other country in the world has done.
  12. misdirected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer turns to attacking the NDP's support instead of outlining a green car strategy.What Canadians and Canadians in the auto sector want to know is that the New Democratic Party will actually support some of these initiatives instead of deciding it is against them before it even reads them.
  13. deflected
    The EconomyUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the action plan and urges passage without addressing the lack of hope for BC workers.What Liberals need to do is get this bill through the House so we can start flowing the money and helping Canadians.
  14. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references the plan the asker supported and calls for cooperation without addressing the PM's understanding or care.a plan that the hon. member has supported.
  15. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites consultation and industry praise but does not confirm delivery of the remaining pine beetle funds.The Budget investments in innovation, market promotion and research and development signal to us the government gets it
  16. answered
    Employment InsuranceKeith Martin (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that EI rules are uniform across Canada and explains variation by local conditions.the rules for employment insurance are the same right across the country.
  17. deflected
    IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general commitments without listing specific conditions.Rio Tinto's proposal to acquire Alcan was approved based on its plans and commitments, which demonstrated that Canada was likely to benefit.
  18. misdirected
    IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The response denies the premise and pivots to job protection instead of addressing the specific request.that is not true. Rio Tinto made commitments with an action plan and probable benefits for Canada.
  19. deflected
    CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The minister explains spending decisions rather than addressing the secrecy of documents.If a program like Trade Routes costs $5 million and provides only $2 billion in benefits, it is not an effective exchange for artists or taxpayers.
  20. deflected
    CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Lists positive investments instead of addressing the accusation of vengeance.In this budget, there is more money for festivals, theatres, libraries, small museums, the national arts training program, dance, music, art, drama and Canadians' access to magazines and community newspapers.
  21. partly answered
    CultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Provides details on funding increases but sidesteps the exact figure disputed.we have increased funding for arts and culture every single year we have been in power.
  22. deflected
    CultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Denies past action and pivots to positive investments without guaranteeing against future censorship.we did not do it before, so of course we will not be doing it again.
  23. answered
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Directly answers both parts of the question.With regard to his first question, the answer is no.
  24. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Rejects the premise and suggests trusting the US process instead of negotiating return.Clearly, what we have to do is have faith in the system that is in place and not question the credibility of the President of the United States.
  25. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the unchanged position and defers to a US process without addressing repatriation.We will wait until such time as that process which has just been put in place by the President of the United States completes its course.
  26. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights consular services and discussions but ignores the request to raise the issue with Obama.I also want to point out that consular services have been offered to this individual.
  27. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames the prior government for the pilot and avoids addressing the health crisis concern.the pilot program was introduced by the previous government.
  28. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the pilot project origin and sidesteps the firing and confidence issue.I will repeat that it is a pilot project established by the previous government.
  29. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to training investments instead of specifying the dollar threshold for EI being too lucrative.That is why we are making substantial investments in training and retraining so that people will have jobs in the health care sector and other areas that are going to last a long time.
  30. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists action plan items but does not address easing EI access or respond to the C.D. Howe critique.We are expanding the benefits and making it more easily available through a system that works.
  31. misdirected
    Pay EquityMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member personally rather than addressing the comparison to Manitoba's pay equity approach.what does the member have against women that she would make them wait for 15 years in order to resolve a pay equity complaint?
  32. misdirected
    Pay EquityMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the member's tone and defends the mechanism while attacking lawyers instead of clarifying Manitoba's ongoing complaint process.the fact that the member shouts and yells from the other end of the House does not change the facts.
  33. deflected
    Human ResourcesMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes government spending and notes provincial jurisdiction without addressing Toronto closures or resulting job losses.The hon. member should realize that the creation of child care spaces is the jurisdiction of the provinces.
  34. misdirected
    InfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's motives and voting record instead of addressing the infrastructure funding question.First, she is not concerned about the supply of drinking water, but about a constitutional and jurisdictional issue.
  35. partly answered
    Mining IndustryMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges disappointment and cites new investment but avoids addressing enforcement of the no-layoff commitment.As a result of our efforts over the weekend, Xstrata is committed to investing between $290 million and $390 million in the Sudbury area over the next two years.
  36. deflected
    TaxationMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses RRIF transfer changes but does not address the claimed OAS clawback bias or plans to correct it.there is provision in the budget and in the budget bill to make a 25% one time change for 2008 in transfers outside of the RRIF.
  37. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes voting integrity and one-person-one-vote without addressing disenfranchisement or remedial steps.it is nice to be heard and all Canadians will be heard through the voting process, which is exactly what this government has ensured by ensuring there is integrity in the voting system.