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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 · sitting No. 12
Commons advances budget implementation act after committee reports
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on second reading of the budget implementation act. Bloc Québécois MP Monique Guay said the bill lacked exceptional measures for Quebec and Canada during the economic crisis. NDP MP Claude Gravelle asked how Liberal women could support provisions he said harmed women.
Liberal MP Hedy Fry said the bill came too late and was too small for the recession but noted positive elements including infrastructure spending and aid for universities and housing. She defended past Liberal employment insurance changes against Bloc Québécois MP Guy André.
In question period Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government on whether further stimulus would follow the budget. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government would not change policy weekly and invited the opposition to offer concrete suggestions.
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Who held the floor · 2009-02-10
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Aerospace Industry
Liberal MP Denis Coderre said Quebec aerospace had lost 26,000 jobs and the promised $200 million strategic aerospace and defence initiative was missing from the budget. Industry Minister Tony Clement said $900 million had already been announced through SADI and the Canada First defence strategy.
Read the exchangeForestry Industry
Bloc Québécois MP Jean-Yves Laforest asked why the government refused loan guarantees for Quebec forestry despite record layoffs. Natural Resources Minister Denis Lebel said programs for training, work sharing and housing were already in place while respecting trade agreements.
Read the exchangeEmployment Insurance
Liberal MP Michael Savage asked at what benefit level employment insurance became too lucrative after the minister warned against making it attractive. Human Resources Minister Diane Finley said the government had added five weeks of benefits and expanded training instead.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
Liberal MP Bob Rae asked whether Canada was discussing with the United States the return of Omar Khadr from Guantanamo. Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said Canada was not participating in such talks and would wait for the new U.S. process to conclude.
Read the exchangePay Equity
NDP MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis accused the government of killing pay equity by removing access to the Human Rights Commission. Treasury Board President Vic Toews said the changes would resolve complaints faster than the 15-year waits seen under the previous system.
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- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the policy clarity question by attacking the questioner's consistency instead.
I can assure him that both I and the Minister of Finance agree that we do not change budgetary policy once a week.
- partly answeredThe BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response acknowledges monitoring future developments while reiterating commitment to the existing plan.
Obviously, we will see how things unfold in the months to come.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific Investment Canada guarantee and pivots to general negotiations and the downturn.
The Minister of Industry is in negotiations with this company in order to ensure that jobs are preserved in the long term.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites existing programs but does not address the missing $200 million election promise.
We have, however, already announced $900 million for the aerospace industry, through the strategic aerospace and defence initiative, or SADI, and the Canada First defence strategy.
- misdirectedAerospace IndustryDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question and sarcastically predicts future applause rather than addressing spinoffs.
I am sure the hon. member will be the first hon. member to stand up in the House and applaud when those new jobs are announced.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims commitments are being kept but cites unrelated investments instead of the promised $200 million.
The government has invested $350 million in the CSeries alone, and there are other investments to come.
- misdirectedAerospace IndustryMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc's motives and cites a space agency announcement instead of addressing the aerospace funding disparity.
Yesterday in Montreal, the Minister of Industry announced a major investment in the Canadian Space Agency.
- answeredForestry IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly cites industry opinion that loan guarantees would risk violating the softwood lumber agreement.
Avrim Lazar, the president of the Forest Products Association of Canada said that it is not perfect, but that anything the government does could risk new problems at the border.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists unrelated programs and criticizes the asker instead of addressing loan guarantees.
While the Bloc Québécois keeps on criticizing, we, the government, are taking action.
- partly answeredThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains differences in plans but does not address the proportional scale comparison.
our situation and that of the United States, and consequently our respective plans, are different.
- deflectedThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends past actions and contrasts with the US without admitting shortfall or committing to more stimulus.
Those stimulus measures are certainly equal to what any other country in the world has done.
- misdirectedThe EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer turns to attacking the NDP's support instead of outlining a green car strategy.
What Canadians and Canadians in the auto sector want to know is that the New Democratic Party will actually support some of these initiatives instead of deciding it is against them before it even reads them.
- deflectedThe EconomyUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the action plan and urges passage without addressing the lack of hope for BC workers.
What Liberals need to do is get this bill through the House so we can start flowing the money and helping Canadians.
- deflectedThe EconomyMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references the plan the asker supported and calls for cooperation without addressing the PM's understanding or care.
a plan that the hon. member has supported.
- partly answeredForestry IndustryHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites consultation and industry praise but does not confirm delivery of the remaining pine beetle funds.
The Budget investments in innovation, market promotion and research and development signal to us the government gets it
- answeredEmployment InsuranceKeith Martin (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that EI rules are uniform across Canada and explains variation by local conditions.
the rules for employment insurance are the same right across the country.
- deflectedIndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general commitments without listing specific conditions.
Rio Tinto's proposal to acquire Alcan was approved based on its plans and commitments, which demonstrated that Canada was likely to benefit.
- misdirectedIndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The response denies the premise and pivots to job protection instead of addressing the specific request.
that is not true. Rio Tinto made commitments with an action plan and probable benefits for Canada.
- deflectedCultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The minister explains spending decisions rather than addressing the secrecy of documents.
If a program like Trade Routes costs $5 million and provides only $2 billion in benefits, it is not an effective exchange for artists or taxpayers.
- deflectedCultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Lists positive investments instead of addressing the accusation of vengeance.
In this budget, there is more money for festivals, theatres, libraries, small museums, the national arts training program, dance, music, art, drama and Canadians' access to magazines and community newspapers.
- partly answeredCultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Provides details on funding increases but sidesteps the exact figure disputed.
we have increased funding for arts and culture every single year we have been in power.
- deflectedCultureMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Denies past action and pivots to positive investments without guaranteeing against future censorship.
we did not do it before, so of course we will not be doing it again.
- answeredForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Directly answers both parts of the question.
With regard to his first question, the answer is no.
- deflectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Rejects the premise and suggests trusting the US process instead of negotiating return.
Clearly, what we have to do is have faith in the system that is in place and not question the credibility of the President of the United States.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the unchanged position and defers to a US process without addressing repatriation.
We will wait until such time as that process which has just been put in place by the President of the United States completes its course.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights consular services and discussions but ignores the request to raise the issue with Obama.
I also want to point out that consular services have been offered to this individual.
- deflectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames the prior government for the pilot and avoids addressing the health crisis concern.
the pilot program was introduced by the previous government.
- deflectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the pilot project origin and sidesteps the firing and confidence issue.
I will repeat that it is a pilot project established by the previous government.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to training investments instead of specifying the dollar threshold for EI being too lucrative.
That is why we are making substantial investments in training and retraining so that people will have jobs in the health care sector and other areas that are going to last a long time.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists action plan items but does not address easing EI access or respond to the C.D. Howe critique.
We are expanding the benefits and making it more easily available through a system that works.
- misdirectedPay EquityMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member personally rather than addressing the comparison to Manitoba's pay equity approach.
what does the member have against women that she would make them wait for 15 years in order to resolve a pay equity complaint?
- misdirectedPay EquityMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the member's tone and defends the mechanism while attacking lawyers instead of clarifying Manitoba's ongoing complaint process.
the fact that the member shouts and yells from the other end of the House does not change the facts.
- deflectedHuman ResourcesMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes government spending and notes provincial jurisdiction without addressing Toronto closures or resulting job losses.
The hon. member should realize that the creation of child care spaces is the jurisdiction of the provinces.
- misdirectedInfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's motives and voting record instead of addressing the infrastructure funding question.
First, she is not concerned about the supply of drinking water, but about a constitutional and jurisdictional issue.
- partly answeredMining IndustryMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges disappointment and cites new investment but avoids addressing enforcement of the no-layoff commitment.
As a result of our efforts over the weekend, Xstrata is committed to investing between $290 million and $390 million in the Sudbury area over the next two years.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses RRIF transfer changes but does not address the claimed OAS clawback bias or plans to correct it.
there is provision in the budget and in the budget bill to make a 25% one time change for 2008 in transfers outside of the RRIF.
- deflectedElections CanadaMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes voting integrity and one-person-one-vote without addressing disenfranchisement or remedial steps.
it is nice to be heard and all Canadians will be heard through the voting process, which is exactly what this government has ensured by ensuring there is integrity in the voting system.