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Friday, June 13, 2008 · sitting No. 112

Commons debates political loans bill as Couillard questions dominate QP

Government orders on the Canada Elections Act took the largest share of the sitting. Debate continued on Bill C-29, which would regulate loans for elections, leadership contests and nominations. Liberal MP Derek Lee said the bill addresses an area that needs regulation, while Conservative MP Tom Lukiwski questioned Liberal leadership candidates' handling of debts and Liberal MP Pat Martin pressed on rules for loans from individuals versus institutions.

Question period focused on the resignation of Bernard Côté from the office of Public Works Minister Michael Fortier and security concerns around Julie Couillard. Liberal MP Bob Rae asked why Côté resigned and why activities involving Couillard were treated differently from other cases. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette and Conservative MP Peter Van Loan exchanged claims over whether the Prime Minister or Privy Council Office had been informed of any concerns.

Decided that day

  • C-62 introduced
  • C-474 advanced
  • C-563 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2008-06-13

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 36%, opposition 64% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
55Bills inch ahead, answers mostly missThe sitting devoted most of its time to substantive debate on elections and public safety, allowing three bills to be introduced or advanced without recorded votes. Question period produced few direct answers while the Speaker issued only three calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Jean Crowder said an apology without action is empty words and asked what the government would do to keep aboriginal children out of foster care. Conservative MP Rod Bruinooge said the government is working diligently on the issue.

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Regional Economic Development

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Bouchard asked the Prime Minister to reverse cuts to funding for Quebec non-profit organizations. Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said the department will continue to support regional economic development in Quebec.

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Competition Bureau

Bloc Québécois MP Mario Laframboise asked the Prime Minister to extend the powers of the Competition Bureau. Conservative MP Colin Carrie said the government is proud of the bureau's work and will not tolerate price fixing.

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Elections Canada

Liberal MP Scott Simms asked whether Conservative advertising spending in marginal ridings was part of an in-and-out scheme. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said candidates spent funds legitimately and under the law.

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Ethics

Liberal MP Brent St. Denis said a new affidavit from Dona Cadman contradicted the government's account of the Cadman affair. Conservative MP James Moore said nothing inappropriate happened and the party will see the Liberals in court.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    Department of Public Works and Government ServicesBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the sequence of events that led to the resignation.Mr. Côté then submitted his resignation, which the minister accepted.
  2. answered
    Department of Public Works and Government ServicesBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the alleged contradiction by distinguishing the cases.Mr. Côté did not recuse himself from a conversation with somebody on a government file.
  3. misdirected
    Department of Public Works and Government ServicesBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal member's motives instead of addressing the scope of the review.the Liberal member for Vancouver South made it clear how the Liberals view this issue and why they are for holding a legislative inquiry when he said, speaking of Madam Couillard, "Who else does she have relationships with? I'd like to know".
  4. misdirected
    Department of Public Works and Government ServicesUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to criticizing the opposition's motives rather than explaining the double standard.The member for Vancouver South , the Liberal member who just spoke, said it quite clearly and he said it many times.
  5. misdirected
    Department of Public Works and Government ServicesUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question by attacking the asker's alleged prurient curiosity.I am sure he would like to know that, but I do not think we need to have a public inquiry to satisfy that prurient curiosity of his.
  6. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates prior denials and pivots to criticizing the opposition's attitude toward police.If they think there is something wrong with the RCMP, then I think that is consistent with their attitude toward the police at all levels in this country.
  7. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question by reiterating a general policy stance without addressing the Prime Minister's knowledge.as we have said many times, the Prime Minister and this government are not in the business of conducting investigations into people's private and personal lives.
  8. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Luc Malo (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the conflict-of-interest claim but only by stating no decision has been made.No, Mr. Speaker, for two reasons: first, no decision has been made in this matter yet and, second, the process is administered by departmental officials in an independent and transparent manner.
  9. answered
    Public SafetyMr. Luc Malo (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly rejects the loaded premise with a clear factual rebuttal.Mr. Speaker, the answer is no on many levels, but primarily and quite simply because no contract has yet been awarded.
  10. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). substantive question.The response acknowledges the apology but only vaguely references ongoing work on foster care without specific actions.Our government is working on that issue diligently.
  11. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists legislative changes but does not directly address ending violence against aboriginal women.We have also brought forward legislation to extend matrimonial real property rights to first nations women.
  12. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains a review process instead of addressing why a public inquiry should not occur.the government has undertaken a review, through the Department of Foreign Affairs, of the issue of whether there is any outstanding security question which remains.
  13. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the asker for not listening and pivots to defending the internal review over an inquiry.as I said many times in the House, and I suppose the member for Willowdale was not listening, foreign affairs can draw on whatever public agencies that Canada has that have the expertise in the areas to assist it with its search.
  14. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The response reiterates the internal review without justifying why an inquiry is unnecessary.the Department of Foreign Affairs is conducting a review and it has the ability to draw on whatever agencies the government has to assist it in that regard.
  15. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's motives and shifts to personal allegations rather than addressing the call for an inquiry.if his interest is the same as that of the member for Vancouver South , one of wanting to know, for example, who else does Madam Couillard have relationships with, then I guess he wants to have a public inquiry into those questions.
  16. deflected
    Regional Economic DevelopmentMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The response avoids promising to reverse the decision and instead restates general policy without addressing the letter or Quebec's concerns.Our mission is to support regional economic development, not to favour anyone.
  17. misdirected
    Regional Economic DevelopmentMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois record instead of addressing the funding restoration request.The Bloc Québécois record of achievements for the regions of Quebec will always be a big zero.
  18. deflected
    Competition BureauMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises existing actions then shifts to attacking the Liberal carbon tax plan.We will not tolerate price fixing for gas companies, but what we would like to see go away is the Liberal leader's plan to put a carbon tax on everything.
  19. misdirected
    Competition BureauMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc platform and accuses inconsistency rather than addressing support for the bill.As always, the Bloc members say one thing, but their platform says the other.
  20. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the practice as common and legal without addressing the specific vote increase or charm claims.Those funds were spent legitimately and under the law in a common practice that was done by all political parties.
  21. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with claims that Liberals are filibustering and calls for broader investigation instead of addressing the RCMP raid or committee actions.In fact, it is the Liberal Party, along with the opposition, that is filibustering a parliamentary committee from investigating the question.
  22. misdirected
    JusticeScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Rob Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the opposition on justice issues rather than addressing Conservative intolerance or punishment of remarks.Canadians are not fooled. They know there is only one party in the country that stands for the rights of victims
  23. deflected
    JusticeScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references the apology to aboriginal leaders and urges similar stature instead of addressing punishment for hate remarks.Those members on the other side heard an apology yesterday, which I feel was considerably meaningful and sincere.
  24. answered
    Copyright ActMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rejects the US law claim and lists multiple made-in-Canada exemptions.The educational exemptions are made in Canada.
  25. deflected
    Copyright ActMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims balance and stakeholder happiness without addressing the specific accusation about anti-consumer branding or lawsuits.our approach is a balanced approach.
  26. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question by redirecting to a Liberal MP and calling the query premature instead of addressing intervention.perhaps the member should ask the member from his party for Pickering—Scarborough East
  27. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again redirects blame to the prior Liberal government and its policy rather than addressing the current government's actions on Khadr.It was the Liberal government that initiated this policy.
  28. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Brent St. Denis (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses wrongdoing and threatens court action against the opposition instead of addressing the affidavit or lawsuit question.
  29. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Brent St. Denis (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to claims about doctored tapes and court threats without explaining the May 17 versus May 19 discrepancy.We will see them in court and they will pay.
  30. partly answered
    Official LanguagesMr. Raymond Gravel (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer confirms the plan will be tabled before spring ends but ignores the accusation of inaction or sneaking out.The minister said we that we will table the second phase of the action plan before the end of spring and that is what we will do.
  31. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMr. Raymond Gravel (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois for voting against measures instead of addressing translation errors or the minister's absence.it is the Bloc that should be ashamed.
  32. deflected
    Youth Employment StrategyMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mrs. Lynne Yelich (Conservative). substantive question.The answer admits lack of knowledge and defers investigation rather than addressing why funds are redirected to Vancouver.I will have to find out which ministry it is under because I have not had any advisement on that
  33. deflected
    2010 Olympic and Paralympic GamesMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies a meeting but sidesteps the core claim about unregistered lobbying and contempt for rules.Mr. Speaker, neither the minister for the 2010 Olympics nor I, as the parliamentary secretary, have met with Mr. Kinsella with regard to the 2010 games.
  34. deflected
    2010 Olympic and Paralympic GamesMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats denial of meeting then pivots to attacking NDP and promoting the games instead of addressing unregistered lobbyist rules.The NDP can invent its scandals about this.
  35. misdirected
    Regional Economic DevelopmentMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the cabinet decision question and instead insults the asker with sponsorship scandal references.However, I am not surprised that he is so familiar with goodies, since the sponsorship scandal gave out so many goodies it emptied the pockets of Canadians.
  36. partly answered
    SeniorsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Mrs. Lynne Yelich (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists government actions on seniors housing but does not address the specific cut of $200 million or why no new investments were made.We have invested in 630,000 housing units for social housing.
  37. deflected
    Omar KhadrMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refuses to comment on the request for repatriation and instead cites an old Liberal quote without addressing the current position.we do not comment about the judicial system of another country.
  38. partly answered
    Garment IndustryMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges challenges to the garment industry but gives no commitment on extending duty remission orders.The Government of Canada has looked at ways of assisting the industry.