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Wednesday, June 4, 2008 · sitting No. 105
Commons debates budget bill amid opposition attacks on economy
The House spent the largest share of its time on the Budget Implementation Act, 2008, under government orders. Members from all parties continued debate on the legislation without a vote recorded in the excerpts.
In question period the main clashes centred on the economy. Liberal leader Stéphane Dion pressed the prime minister to fire Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, citing job losses in Oshawa and weak growth figures, while Stephen Harper defended the government's tax cuts and record of net job creation.
New Democratic Party leader Jack Layton also challenged Harper on manufacturing losses and called for green-job measures, which the prime minister said the NDP had voted against.
Decided that day
- Bill C-377 passed second and third reading with amendments
- Bill C-393 passed second reading
- Bill C-490 passed second reading
- Bills C-557 and C-558 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2008-06-04
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Other moments
Foreign Affairs
Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette accused the government of disrespecting Parliament by refusing to send the prime minister and former foreign affairs minister to a committee on the Julie Couillard affair; Harper replied that opposition members sought only partisan hearings.
Read the exchangeAutomotive Industry
NDP leader Jack Layton told the House that 180,000 manufacturing jobs had been lost under the Conservatives and that workers in Oshawa deserved answers; Harper said the government had created more than three-quarters of a million net jobs since taking office.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
Bloc Québécois MP Claude DeBellefeuille criticized the environment minister for refusing to credit greenhouse-gas reductions achieved by industry before 2006; John Baird answered that the government's plan targets future emissions.
Read the exchangeCanada Pension Plan
NDP MP Chris Charlton said pension splitting had caused some seniors to lose GIS benefits or face higher nursing-home costs and asked the government to waive penalties for reversing the split; Finance Minister Jim Flaherty defended the measure as major tax reform.
Read the exchangeOmar Khadr
Liberal MP Sue Barnes asked whether the new foreign affairs minister would follow departmental advice and seek Omar Khadr's return from Guantanamo; parliamentary secretary Deepak Obhrai said any such request remained premature while legal proceedings continue.
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- misdirectedThe EconomyStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks opposition instead of addressing economic data or timeline requested.
It is such a disappointment that all the opposition does is run down our country.
- deflectedThe EconomyStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to taxes and international praise without addressing firing the minister.
Rest assured that no one in the world is calling on the government to impose new taxes on the Canadian economy.
- misdirectedThe EconomyStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to opposition tax plans and attacks Dion's fitness rather than addressing the finance minister's statements.
The Leader of the Opposition wants to impose new taxes that would put this economy into recession.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses investment and innovation fund but does not directly respond to the minister's alleged remarks about Ontario.
I am sure if the hon. member had read the budget, he would have seen the $250 million automotive innovation fund.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites OECD data then attacks opposition knowledge and carbon tax instead of addressing local job losses.
They are ignorant of all that.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses request as partisan without addressing appearance or transparency concerns.
I know the opposition wants to have public hearings for partisan reasons.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the question on testimony and challenges opposition to ask something else.
If the Bloc Québécois has a substantive question, I look forward to it.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates policy on private citizens but does not answer when RCMP informed the Prime Minister.
the Prime Minister has made it abundantly clear that he has no intention of starting a practice of asking for inquiries into the backgrounds of private citizens in Canada.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the timeline question and attacks the opposition instead.
More than any thing else these repetitive questions demonstrate the inability of the opposition to ask questions about anything that actually matters to Canadians.
- partly answeredAutomotive IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses net job creation but ignores the call for green economy leadership.
Since this government has been in office, since the Minister of Finance has been in this job, over three-quarters of a million jobs, net, have been created in our country.
- deflectedAutomotive IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to past NDP vote against a fund rather than outlining new actions for green jobs.
Budget 2008 provides for such a fund, but the NDP voted against that fund.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids committee appearance issue and attacks the questioner's past record instead.
When he was faced with one of his ministers who breached privacy laws and confidentiality laws, he required her to take a lie detector test.
- deflectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer is cut off but prior pattern shows deflection via personal attack rather than addressing committee request.
- answeredForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states when PM learned and that documents were returned.
The Prime Minister became aware of the matter on Monday of last week.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the investigation choice but does not address why those who erred should investigate.
we are quite confident that Foreign Affairs can look into this matter.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects past reductions focus without engaging the policy premise.
Our mission and our goal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions—not in the past, but in the future.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes their regulatory plan without addressing the committee recommendation or consulting the chair.
we worked very hard with the forestry industry in Quebec and throughout Canada and we have recognized cogeneration in our regulatory plan.
- partly answeredRegional DevelopmentMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the policy of one-off projects but does not directly address overturning the decision.
We will continue to support the economic agencies, but through one-off projects that have a start, a middle and an end.
- deflectedRegional DevelopmentMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses shared jurisdiction and decisions without stating whether Quebec was consulted.
The Government of Quebec can very well make its own decisions and we can make ours.
- partly answeredAgricultureMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer names the representative but does not explain why the minister is absent.
Canada's position is being ably led by Alex Himelfarb.
- misdirectedAgricultureMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the conference's credibility instead of addressing the minister's absence.
I think the member just outlined the credibility of the conference when one of the keynote speakers is Robert Mugabe.
- misdirectedCanada-U.S. RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to demanding an apology from the asker rather than addressing report flaws.
The hon. member asked a lot of questions, assuming this was true, but once that came out, he never once apologized.
- misdirectedCanada-U.S. RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of inaccuracy and demands apologies instead of addressing the question on credibility.
It is time for them to apologize on all those fronts.
- partly answeredHealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with listed achievements but does not directly address the listed unmet commitments.
This government, in three budgets in a row, increased the transfer payments to the provinces and territories by 6% per year.
- partly answeredCanada Pension PlanMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the specific case by offering to review it but pivots to general praise of pension splitting without addressing the penalty waiver request.
I am not familiar with that particular case but if the member wants to raise it with me I would be happy to look at it and see how it applies to the particular couple to whom she makes reference.
- deflectedOmar KhadrSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids the intent question by restating standard consular assurances and calling the query premature.
Again, any questions regarding whether Canada plans to ask for the release of Omar Khadr are premature and speculative as the legal process and appeals are ongoing.
- deflectedOmar KhadrSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Repeats that the request is speculative without engaging the foreign affairs advice or Arar comparison.
I will repeat again that any questions regarding whether Canada plans to bring Mr. Khadr here is speculative and premature as the legal process and appeals are still going on.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Declines to discuss the case and points to appeal process instead of addressing the selective-help accusation.
I cannot talk specifically about this one. He can appeal if his request was not granted.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids the repatriation rationale by citing volume of cases and accusing the asker of political motives.
He should not just raise this for political reasons.
- answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Explains the legal requirement for individual evaluation and states that processing has been expedited.
under the law, it is impossible to guarantee that the visa applications for all the delegates will be approved, because each application must be evaluated individually.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Cites security mandate and refuses to discuss individual denials rather than addressing the specific visa delays.
we cannot discuss the reasons why the visas were denied.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the cap-and-trade complementarity question and attacks Liberals on taxes instead.
when it comes to taxes, let me be very clear. Gordon Campbell can be trusted, unlike the Liberals across the aisle.
- deflectedCopyrightMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes intent to criminalize Canadians without evidence; the answer dismisses facts and restates balance without addressing the query.
the hon. member simply has all of his facts wrong.
- deflectedCopyrightMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The question repeats unproven accusations of US influence; the answer attacks the rhetoric and restates the same non-answer on timing.
there is a fair bit of shrill rhetoric in there.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks several concrete details on the apology; the answer confirms the date and consultations but omits specifics on leadership presence, party statements, and the Governor General.
Details are being discussed with survivors and with national aboriginal organizations.