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Thursday, March 13, 2008 · sitting No. 66
Commons debates Afghanistan mission as ethics clash erupts in question period
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders debating a motion on Canada's mission in Afghanistan. Conservative MP Joy Smith told the House she would support the motion while acknowledging the sacrifices of Canadian soldiers. Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête questioned the government's handling of the mission and called it unbalanced.
Question period focused on ethics allegations against the Prime Minister. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on a recorded conversation about financial considerations for former MP Chuck Cadman. Harper said the allegations were false and announced he had filed a statement of claim in court.
Routine proceedings included the tabling of committee reports on finance, citizenship and immigration, and public safety, as well as the introduction of private members' bills on organ donation and judicial discretion.
Decided that day
- Four bills received royal assent
- Budget implementation motion passed
- Afghanistan motion passed
- Amendment to Afghanistan motion defeated
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2008-03-13
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Other moments
Afghanistan
Bloc Québécois MP Vivian Barbot asked why the Military Police Complaints Commission had to launch a public inquiry after the Department of Foreign Affairs refused documents on Afghan detainee transfers. Defence Minister Peter MacKay said the government would cooperate fully and tabled a letter from the Department of Justice.
Read the exchangeCanada-U.S. Relations
NDP Leader Jack Layton asked whether the Prime Minister would fire his chief of staff or remove Ambassador Michael Wilson over alleged interference in U.S. internal affairs. Harper said an internal investigation led by the Clerk of the Privy Council was under way and no resignations were warranted.
Read the exchangePrivilege
NDP MP Yvon Godin accused Heritage Minister Josée Verner of misleading the House after she declined an invitation to appear before the official languages committee. Verner had told the House she had not turned down any invitation.
Read the exchangeWays and Means
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty moved concurrence in a ways and means motion to implement budget measures. The motion was put to a vote after some members objected.
Read the exchangeCompetition Act
Bloc Québécois MP Roger Gaudet introduced Bill C-454 to amend the Competition Act and argued that oil companies were colluding on gasoline prices. Conservative MP Colin Carrie said some provisions could encroach on provincial jurisdiction.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedEthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the tape question and pivots to lawsuits and counter-allegations.
Today my representatives have filed a statement of claim in a court of law.
- deflectedEthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats denial of criminality without addressing the specific financial remarks on the tape.
these allegations of criminal wrongdoing are utterly false.
- misdirectedEthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer dodges by attacking Liberals over the tape's origin instead of explaining where the PM will address it.
We have yet to hear the view of the leader of the Liberal Party on all of this.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts blame to Liberals for avoiding votes rather than addressing the Cadman financial offer.
the only evading and hiding going on in Parliament are the Liberals on every confidence vote in the last two weeks.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer directly counters by citing Mrs. Cadman's statement supporting the PM's account.
if my colleague accepts Mrs. Cadman's word, then he should accept her statement that the Prime Minister has told the truth about this matter.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the caucus offer but does not confirm whether that was said in the 2005 interview.
we offered Mr. Cadman the opportunity to rejoin the Conservative caucus and take the Conservative nomination, with support for an election campaign.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer gives a flat no then pivots to an unrelated attack on the Bloc's past actions.
My agreement to defeat the government was with him, as leader of the Bloc Québécois.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer is cut off and provides no response to the specific claim about the interview tape.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer redirects to Cadman's statements instead of addressing the specific query on the PM's words or financial considerations.
All we are asking the Bloc and the Liberal Party is to listen to what Chuck Cadman himself said.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses platform and rejected recommendations rather than addressing curbing PMO power or calling police on NAFTA-gate.
we ran on a clear election platform in terms of reforming some accountability rules.
- deflectedCanada-U.S. RelationsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again cites rejected Gomery recommendations and an internal review without clearing or firing staff as asked.
the Clerk of the Privy Council is leading a full internal investigation.
- deflectedEthicsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the offer but does not explain why the PM's position implies the Cadmans are lying.
There was in fact no offer of a million dollar life insurance policy made to Chuck Cadman.
- misdirectedEthicsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberals for smearing reputations and ignoring votes instead of explaining the PM's words.
I think Canadians are getting sick and tired of the Liberal Party members consistently coming into the House, day in and day out, ignoring their obligations to vote on behalf of their constituents, and smearing people's reputations without any evidence whatsoever.
- deflectedEthicsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims no kangaroo court but avoids why the justice committee was stopped from examining the Cadman matter.
nothing of the sort is happening.
- answeredEthicsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. Art Hanger (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the chair ruled the motion out of order as outside committee mandate.
I ruled the motion out of order because it was not the mandate of the committee to deal with it.
- answeredAfghanistanMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides the letter showing cooperation and document disclosure to the commission.
To facilitate the Commission's investigations to the fullest extent possible consistent with its mandate, I have been instructed to disclose to the Commission all Government records that it would be entitled to receive if the Commission was conducting a hearing into the complaints and had in fact issued a subpoena.
- deflectedAfghanistanMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing the specific letter or opposition claim by inviting tabling and attacking the asker.
I know the member opposite will continue to rattle on as she always does throughout question period, but this letter is self-explanatory.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to demanding an apology from the Liberal leader instead of addressing the interference claim.
The only thing I saw come out of that was the need for the Liberal leader to apologize for the accusations he made about the gentleman.
- partly answeredAirbusMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses starting the inquiry soon but ignores the specific recommendation on appointing the commissioner first.
the government would like the public inquiry to start soon but we are awaiting the committee's final report.
- deflectedJusticeStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the case-by-case policy without committing to the House motion on opposing the death penalty everywhere.
We will deal with each case on a case by case basis.
- misdirectedJusticeStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to the government's crime agenda and questions the Liberal position on another bill.
I would like to know what the position of the Liberal Party is on it.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references a cooperation letter and draws an analogy to Gomery but does not address the specific complaints of slow, censored, or ignored responses.
the Department of Justice has pledged cooperation.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids committing to present the tape to the House by stating it will appear in court and attacking the Liberals.
all the documents and the full version of this tape will be seen in court, as will the Liberal Party.
- answeredAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms that the commission will receive the necessary funding and cooperation.
will get the cooperation with respect both to information disclosures and the funding necessary to have a full-blown hearing if this is the direction in which it intends to go.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites a letter about cooperation but never commits to handing over the documents.
"Based on our experience to date, it would appear that the Government's cooperative approach is working quite well".
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMaurizio Bevilacqua (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the prior Liberal record instead of addressing any current plan to restrict immigration.
It was in fact the Liberal government that allowed the backlog of immigration applications to balloon from 50,000 to over 800,000.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Colleen Beaumier (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights past Liberal actions and current processing speed but does not explain how the backlog will be cleared.
Family reunification cases are getting done 20% to 40% faster than under the previous government.
- partly answeredScience and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms an ongoing Investment Canada review but does not guarantee the technology will not be used against Canadian interests.
I indicated clearly to committee that I will fulfill to the letter my responsibilities in law under the Investment Canada process.
- partly answeredScience and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the net-benefit test and contractual obligations but does not state who will control the satellite in a sovereignty dispute.
the test being the net benefit to Canadians.
- deflectedHIV-AIDSMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers to past Liberal cuts and a vague commitment rather than confirming continued or restored funding levels.
I have given my commitment to these groups that we will try to make these Liberal cuts as least intrusive as possible so that the programs themselves could be saved.
- deflectedRivière-Rouge—Mont-Tremblant International AirportMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims nationwide equity is being reviewed but does not address the specific charges at the airport in question.
We can assess them at any time to ensure that they are equitable across the country.
- partly answeredAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer outlines the process involving Professor Johnston but does not confirm when or whether the inquiry will actually begin.
We will be able at that point to move forward with the public inquiry that I know he eagerly awaits.
- answeredFisheriesMs. Catherine Bell (NDP) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The minister directly confirms the issue was raised with the Americans and expectations communicated.
We have made that quite clear to the Americans.
- deflectedAgricultureJack Layton (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The minister explains the pilot project and denies illegality but avoids confirming the specific information request.
I have not been able to get that information, so there is no illegality here at all.
- answeredCanada-U.S. RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The minister directly states nothing is being hidden and an investigation is underway.
on the contrary, we are hiding nothing.
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mrs. Betty Hinton (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response ignores the specific accusation and shifts to general complaints about House behaviour.
The behaviour that is going on in here is deplorable.
- answeredPoints of OrderMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The minister addresses the request by providing evidence to clarify and support the original statement.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The response ignores the consent request and instead offers to table a different letter.
I would like to table a letter that I referred to extensively during question period.