All sittings← 2008-02-262008-02-28 →
Wednesday, February 27, 2008 · sitting No. 55
Liberals say they will let Conservative budget pass
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate on the budget. Liberal MP John McCallum told the House that his party sees no reason to force an election over the document and will allow it to pass.
McCallum said federal program spending has risen faster under the Conservatives than under the previous Liberal government. He added that the budget contains little that should excite or overly concern Canadians.
Decided that day
- S-210 advanced to second reading
- C-44 considered in second chamber
- C-343 introduced in first chamber
- C-514 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
No CPAC Question Period upload is on file for this day. CPAC’s channel goes back to December 2019.
Who held the floor · 2008-02-27
AI-rated The sitting score and the rating of each answer come from a language model reading Hansard. How the AI rates this
Other moments
Ethics
Liberal MP Brian Murphy pressed the government to call on former prime minister Brian Mulroney to appear before the ethics committee after Mulroney acknowledged dealings with Karlheinz Schreiber.
Read the exchangeAirbus
Liberal MP Sue Barnes asked whether the government would seek to recover taxpayer funds paid to Mulroney after new information emerged about his dealings with Schreiber.
Read the exchangeForestry Industry
NDP MP Thomas Mulcair said the budget abandons forestry workers and cited Quebec Forest Industry Council comments that the government has thrown in the towel.
Read the exchangeCanadian Wheat Board
Liberal MP Wayne Easter said a Federal Court of Appeal ruling confirmed that government attempts to change the Wheat Board were illegal and asked the agriculture minister to respect section 47.1 of the act.
Read the exchangeCopyright Act
Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc accused Industry Minister Jim Prentice of violating copyright law during a public demonstration and called on him to step aside from drafting new legislation.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
AI-rated Each answer’s rating (answered, partly answered, deflected, answered something else) is a model’s reading of the exchange. How the AI rates this
- deflectedBudgetStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes squandered surplus without evidence; answer praises budget and attacks Liberal credibility instead of addressing leadership failure.
I assume that is why the leader of the Liberal Party intends to allow this budget to pass.
- deflectedBudgetStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes lack of vision based on media quotes; answer defends budget and questions Liberal credibility rather than engaging the critique.
when he makes ferocious attacks on a budget that he has every intention of allowing to pass, he simply has no credibility in those attacks.
- deflectedBudgetStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes government plan fails and pushes Liberal bill; answer shifts to throne speech endorsement and again attacks credibility.
he should watch the Rick Mercer Report from last night.
- partly answeredBudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks for admission of mistake; answer explains program purpose and effects without admitting error.
The rebate program has served its purpose in raising consumer awareness of fuel efficient models and encouraging the purchase of new types of vehicles.
- deflectedBudgetMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands acknowledgment of error; answer refuses and pivots to other spending without addressing the feebate critique.
- partly answeredBudgetMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks for surplus use on manufacturing/forestry; answer cites debt reduction and existing spending but does not commit new targeted aid.
This is a very balanced, very prudent approach and we are confident that the House will support it.
- deflectedBudgetMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Question challenges claim that budget reflects Quebec interests; answer cites select supporters and prior measures without addressing widespread criticism.
- deflectedBudgetMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks for refundable contributions fund from surplus; answer lists existing measures and supporters without new commitments.
There are things in this budget that Quebeckers appreciate.
- deflectedBudgetMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the surplus and Quebec aid request, instead listing unrelated positives and criticizing the Bloc.
We all know it, but the Bloc Québécois members do not talk about it.
- partly answeredBudgetJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists specific health investments but does not address waiting lists or broken promises directly.
For example, in this budget there is new money for Genome Canada, for mental health, for the safety of health products and for students studying in medical fields.
- misdirectedBudgetJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists investments then attacks the opposition's spending view instead of addressing the specific health gaps raised.
The problem is the opposition leader has a view that all we should do is spend, spend, spend and no matter how much we spend, it is not enough.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the government's process via Johnston and the committee but does not directly call on Mulroney to appear.
The government has responded to this issue through the establishment of Professor Johnston's assessment of what should be done.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers to Johnston then pivots to criticizing the opposition's focus on the past instead of committing to an inquiry.
What is remarkable is the only time there is any excitement on the other side is when the members discuss issues from about two decades ago.
- deflectedAirbusSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as an obsession with the past and shifts to praising the recent budget.
I appreciate the Liberals' obsession with matters decades ago.
- deflectedAirbusSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references Johnston then attacks Liberals for focusing on the past instead of addressing the halted investigation.
As soon as the Liberals are ready to talk about the issues of this day and the future and where the country will go in the future, we will be happy to talk to them about that.
- partly answeredManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims prudent action through debt reduction and tax cuts but does not address using the surplus for industry aid.
Debt reduction means that Canadian companies and taxpayers will pay lower taxes.
- answeredManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly refutes the premise with specific funding figures for Quebec.
- partly answeredThe BudgetMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses training programs but ignores the invitation to meet workers and the specific $60 million request.
We have invested in new labour market arrangements and $3 billion in new training programs to help workers step into jobs.
- misdirectedThe BudgetMr. Raymond Gravel (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc instead of addressing the retroactive GIS promise or seniors' debt.
every time we bring forward initiatives designed to help seniors, it is the Bloc that opposes them.
- deflectedMunicipal AffairsMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites investigations but avoids explaining the radio ads or unilateral action.
The Ethics Commissioner investigated this at the request of the Liberals and the Ethics Commissioner said nothing improper happened here.
- deflectedMunicipal AffairsMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior claims and attacks Liberals without naming any comparable contribution agreement.
The Ethics Commissioner was clear that no wrongdoing took place here.
- deflectedMunicipal AffairsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer blames city council and the asker instead of addressing the minister acting alone.
It was the elected city council of Ottawa that voted down the light rail project.
- deflectedMunicipal AffairsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the liability claim and insults the asker rather than admitting or refuting sole action.
the Liberals can applaud the question like trained seals cleaning chalkboard erasers, but the fact is there is no truth at all to the allegation.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists prior funds but does not address the budget's abandonment of forestry communities.
There was $1 billion, not designed for corporations but designed to help people who have been harmed by the adjustments in the forestry sector, among other sectors in the economy.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives general tax relief totals instead of addressing the specific personal vs corporate tax changes cited.
surely the hon. member recognizes that in the course of a little bit over two years our government has reduced the tax burden and provided tax relief to Canadians by almost $200 billion over this year and the next five years.
- misdirectedCanadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the questioner personally and changes the subject to meeting attendance rather than the court ruling on section 47.1.
The member for Malpeque came out to Saskatchewan last week. He ran around. He put on four meetings to save the Wheat Board. He had a handful of people at each one.
- deflectedCanadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the questioner as rhetorical and repeats unsupported percentages without addressing the court order or section 47.1.
the member for Malpeque is so wrapped up in his rhetoric, he even gets it wrong himself.
- misdirectedCopyright ActDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response pivots to past Liberal deficits and ignores the copyright violation allegation entirely.
The Liberals are obsessed with issues from the past, issues that are resolved and issues that do not exist.
- misdirectedCopyright ActDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again shifts to old Liberal policies and deficits instead of the minister's alleged copyright breach or resignation request.
He is stuck in those old Liberal policies of a couple of decades ago: the $65 billion in deficit; the high taxes; the high spending
- partly answeredRegional DevelopmentMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses support for non-profit organizations but does not speak to measures for manufacturing, forestry or regional development.
we intend to continue supporting non-profit economic organizations.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response lists unrelated budget items and attacks the Bloc instead of explaining the nuclear priority or green rebate cancellation.
The Bloc Québécois will be voting against public transit measures for Montreal.
- answeredAutomotive IndustryMr. John Maloney (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the reply method and restates the government's auto sector support actions.
I pointed out, among other things, our government's support for the automotive industry and our support for a fair deal with Korea that would work in the best interests of all Canadians.
- deflectedHomelessnessMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the housing program question by attacking the opposition's past vote and shifting to mental health projects.
how ironic that the member would raise this issue, as it was his party that voted against the $1.4 billion housing trust
- partly answeredChild CareMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses child care spending via the benefit and provincial spaces but ignores the corporate tax comparison and election promise critique.
we put in place the universal child care benefit which provides direct support to 1.5 million families on behalf of two million children
- deflectedStatus of WomenMrs. Susan Kadis (Liberal) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the funding discrimination claim with a general statement on supporting women without specifics.
I would like to remind this House that we are working very hard for women, and that all women in Canada and Quebec have the right to be defended and heard by this government