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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 · sitting No. 15
Bloc motion on manufacturing and forestry aid leads supply day debate
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on a Bloc Québécois motion calling for immediate federal measures to assist the manufacturing and forestry sectors, including support for modernizing production facilities, research and development investments and the restoration of an economic diversification program for forestry regions. Ms. Paule Brunelle moved the motion during Government Orders and several members spoke to it before the House moved on.
The motion remained before the House at adjournment. In Question Period, Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on the government's handling of allegations involving former prime minister Brian Mulroney and Karlheinz Schreiber, demanding a full public inquiry. Harper replied that an independent third party would soon be named to recommend terms of reference for such an inquiry.
Decided that day
- C-473, C-19, C-20, C-474 and C-472 introduced
- S-3 and C-21 given second reading
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2007-11-13
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Points of Order
Mr. Pierre Paquette invoked Standing Order 81(14)(b) and asked the Speaker to select which opposition motion would have precedence on the allotted day after the NDP and Bloc could not agree.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
Bloc Québécois MP Claude Bachand asked the government to halt prisoner transfers to Afghan authorities after President Hamid Karzai confirmed ongoing torture, citing a possible breach of the Geneva Convention. Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier said Canada is helping the elected Afghan government meet its obligations.
Read the exchangeJustice
Bloc Québécois MP Francine Lalonde criticized the government for ending requests to commute death sentences for Canadian nationals abroad and for refusing to sponsor a UN moratorium. Justice Minister Rob Nicholson and Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier said Canadian law remains unchanged and Canada will support the UN resolution.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
Conservative MP James Lunney asked Indian Affairs Minister Chuck Strahl to explain the importance of repealing section 67 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. Strahl said the change ends an exemption that had denied first nations the same legal protections as other Canadians.
Read the exchangeAdjournment Proceedings
Liberal MP Brian Murphy asked when federal funding would allow the Petitcodiac River restoration project to proceed after New Brunswick committed its share. Parliamentary Secretary Brian Jean said the government had completed required reviews under the Navigable Waters Protection Act and Fisheries Act.
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- answeredAirbusStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the appointment of an independent advisor to determine terms for a public inquiry.
We will be asking that independent third party, whom we will be naming very shortly, to provide us with the terms of reference for a full public inquiry as well as any other course of action that the independent party deems appropriate.
- partly answeredAirbusStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer confirms a public inquiry will occur but deflects on the letters by shifting to extradition proceedings.
I can assure the Leader of the Opposition that when somebody writes about his extradition proceedings, that is not handled by the Prime Minister
- answeredAirbusStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer reiterates the plan for an independent advisor to set inquiry terms while criticizing the questioner for not listening.
Under the circumstances, the independent party that the government will be employing will be making a recommendation to the government on the appropriate terms of inquiry for a full public inquiry.
- misdirectedAirbusMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner with a conspiracy theory remark and avoids addressing the routing of letters.
I have to inform the hon. member, who never misses a chance at a good conspiracy theory, that I have no relationship with Karlheinz Schreiber and I certainly do not intend to become his pen pal now.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the action taken without addressing the demand to table routing slips or paper trail.
Mr. Speaker, there may be many letters from this individual, but what is clear is that the Prime Minister has acted on new allegations in a sworn affidavit, and I think he is taking the very responsible course of action.
- answeredAirbusMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer confirms the appointment of an advisor to set terms for a full public inquiry.
We intend to ask this advisor to give us the appropriate terms of reference for a full public inquiry into this issue.
- answeredAirbusMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms that an independent advisor will define the inquiry terms rather than the government doing so directly.
I do not think that it is appropriate for this government to define such a commission's terms of reference, and that is why I will be asking an independent third party to advise us on the appropriate terms of reference for a public inquiry.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids committing to release the leadership donor list by noting only that lists are available and Mulroney did not support Harper.
I believe the fact that the former Prime Minister did not support me as a candidate for the leadership of this party is a matter of public knowledge.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer asserts the list is public but pivots to the events' age without addressing the inquiry or fear claim.
- answeredAirbusJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly affirms cooperation before adding historical context.
- answeredAirbusJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explicitly confirms yes to both public inquiry and cooperation.
- deflectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the letter count and redirects to the inquiry appointment.
this individual may have sent many letters to members of Parliament
- deflectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the cover-up query and pivots to the inquiry as fact-finding.
there will be a full public inquiry into these allegations.
- deflectedAirbusMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the Mulroney discussion query and emphasizes the inquiry.
the Prime Minister indicated that he would appoint an independent third party to look into this.
- deflectedAirbusMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the conversation count and reiterates the inquiry action.
the Prime Minister and the government took immediate action.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing the Geneva Convention violation claim.
jump ship from the Bloc Québécois to sit in Quebec with his friends in the Parti Québécois.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses funding a prison project instead of addressing the requested moratorium on transfers.
we are helping the properly elected government of Afghanistan to comply with its obligations.
- deflectedJusticeMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states the law on capital punishment without addressing the alleged policy change or accusation.
the law in this country is very clear and that is not going to change.
- partly answeredJusticeMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions voting for a UN resolution but does not explain the refusal to sponsor the moratorium.
We will vote in favour of a UN resolution that encourages other countries to have the same policies that we have here in Canada.
- misdirectedAirbusMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker by resenting implications rather than addressing the accusation.
I resent the implications of the hon. member.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer refers to a past settlement instead of confirming whether the minister stopped the investigation.
if the member is referring to a settlement that was entered into 10 years ago, she should talk with some of her colleagues
- misdirectedAirbusDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the question irresponsible and states the asker should be ashamed.
that is an irresponsible question asked by the hon. member and he, quite frankly, should be ashamed of himself
- misdirectedAirbusDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as babble and attacks its premise instead of addressing the inquiry request.
That is some babble that came from the hon. member, Mr. Speaker, but the premise of his question is completely wrong.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the questions and mentions an independent review without committing to a timeline before the election.
none of these questions was written before they actually heard any of the answers today.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP instead of addressing request for committee study.
I think one of the things on which we can all agree is that the NDP will never be satisfied with anything or any course of action on this or anything else.
- deflectedAirbusUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims ignorance rather than engaging with specific questions on lobbying and inquiry scope.
I have no idea what the hon. member is talking about.
- misdirectedAirbusUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer turns to personal boasting and invites allegations instead of addressing contacts with Mulroney.
I was not a secretary. I was basically running the government in those days, just for the record here, but that is not widely known.
- misdirectedAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberals and reframes as tax record release instead of answering customs/GST questions.
He wants us to release the income tax records of a Canadian citizen.
- deflectedAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates prior attack on Liberals and refuses to discuss extradition publicly.
that may be the Liberal way of acting, releasing people's income tax records without their permission or without the benefit of a court order.
- deflectedManufacturing SectorMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores manufacturing decline graph and pivots to general economic praise.
Canada's economy under this Conservative government is strong and thriving.
- partly answeredManufacturing SectorMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses capital cost allowance recommendation but does not explain inaction on other committee proposals.
We did that in the budget this year and it is important that we continue with that.
- deflectedAirbusDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends inquiry plan but shifts to criticizing Liberals' past record on Air-India.
I have to point out on this new-found enthusiasm of the Liberal Party on public inquiries, when there was the worst mass murder in Canadian history, Air-India, the Liberals stonewalled this for years and would have nothing to do with a public inquiry.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to the public inquiry appointment rather than addressing whether a departmental investigation has started.
now we are taking the very responsible position of appointing an independent third party.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again defers to the third party without addressing the accountability act or potential conflict.
the independent third party could make a recommendation to that effect.
- misdirectedAirbusDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner instead of addressing contact protocols with Mulroney.
that question is beneath the hon. member, I believe.
- deflectedHuman Resources and Social DevelopmentMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights program expansion and consultations but ignores the centralization question.
We consult very broadly to ensure that we get input from across every region and province
- partly answeredAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the inquiry parameters but declines to confirm Schreiber's availability due to extradition rules.
that would be within the parameters of the public inquiry, and we do not want to prejudge what those will be at this time.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer expresses sympathy and states the project will be considered but does not commit to making it permanent.
we will consider the future of that pilot project in that context.
- misdirectedEconomic DevelopmentMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP plan for more bureaucracy instead of stating the government's position on FedNor.
if the NDP plan is to have more bureaucracy, less control, less employees in northern Ontario as a result of his plan, then this caucus will vote against it.