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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 · sitting No. 12
Commons moves to end debate on aeronautics act changes
Government orders on the Aeronautics Act occupied the largest share of the sitting as Conservative MP Ed Fast moved that the question be now put on Bill C-7 to advance it toward third reading. NDP MP Brian Masse warned that the bill would import U.S.-style security measures that threaten Canadian privacy on flights not bound for the United States.
Question period opened with Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressing Prime Minister Stephen Harper to apologize for the income-trust tax that erased billions in retirement savings one year earlier. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe and Conservative MPs traded charges over the manufacturing sector's decline and the value of the government's tax cuts in the economic statement.
Other exchanges saw Liberal MP Marlene Jennings question the environment minister's cooperation with police in an Ottawa mayoralty probe and Conservative ministers defend border-security spending after an Auditor General report.
Decided that day
- Income Tax Act and Excise Tax Act amendment motion passed
- Bill C-471 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2007-10-31
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Other moments
The Environment
Liberal MP Geoff Regan said the environment commissioner's report showed the government's sustainable-development strategy had no goals or timelines, while Environment Minister John Baird blamed Liberal-era failures for the gaps.
Read the exchangeForestry Industry
Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr asked why the economic statement contained no immediate help for forestry workers facing layoffs, and Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn pointed to earlier $400-million commitments and industry endorsements.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Jean Crowder said the economic statement gave billions to banks and oil companies but nothing to lift First Nations communities out of third-world conditions, while Indian Affairs Minister Chuck Strahl cited more than a billion dollars added to First Nations budgets since 2006.
Read the exchangeOlder Workers
Bloc Québécois MP Yves Lessard said the economic statement abandoned older workers who need support now, and Human Resources Minister Monte Solberg pointed to the targeted initiative for older workers and expanded training spending.
Read the exchangeUkraine
Conservative MP James Bezan asked the government to mark the 75th anniversary of the Holodomor famine, and Multiculturalism Secretary Jason Kenney said Canada had co-sponsored a UNESCO motion honouring the victims.
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- misdirectedIncome TrustsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the apology request and pivots to attacking the opposition's voting record.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition discovered the strategy of voting against tax cuts and--
- deflectedIncome TrustsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids apologizing and instead states Liberal policy and explains tax context without addressing the human impact or broken promise.
Mr. Speaker, the leader of the Liberal Party should admit that he would tax income trusts.
- misdirectedIncome TrustsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's record on abstentions and GST instead of addressing broken promises.
Mr. Speaker, that is quite an incredible question from the king of abstentions, who on Monday drew a line in his sandbox.
- deflectedIncome TrustsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses foreign ownership and tax rates but does not respond to remedies for lost savings or foreign takeovers.
yesterday, the Liberals brought to Parliament Hill an American couple who wanted to complain about Canadian tax policies.
- misdirectedIncome TrustsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer insults the asker rather than addressing any point about Canadians affected by income trusts.
Relax, Ralph? You are going to get a hernia.
- partly answeredIncome TrustsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the future level playing field and tax adjustments but does not address lost savings or remedies for those affected.
At that time, it will be a level playing field.
- partly answeredEconomic StatementMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the manufacturing crisis but pivots to taxes and past votes without detailing actions taken.
this sector is clearly in crisis.
- misdirectedEconomic StatementMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's record instead of addressing why tax cuts do not help unprofitable manufacturers.
The real reason why the Bloc is voting against benefits for people is that the Bloc has never accomplished anything for any sector in Quebec.
- deflectedEconomic StatementMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses general tax reductions without addressing the specific claim that GST cuts ignore low-income needs.
the tax reductions yesterday for individuals and families in Canada are very substantial.
- partly answeredEconomic StatementMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains manufacturing support via capital cost allowance but ignores the GST credit and Quebec-specific requests.
there is a major accelerated capital cost allowance in budget 2007 permitting manufacturers to write off new machinery and equipment over the course of two years.
- deflectedEconomic StatementJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's tax views rather than explaining the choice of corporate cuts over investments.
That is the view that the NDP says out loud and stands beside, that the Liberals abstain on and hide behind, but that is the real view of both the Liberals and the NDP.
- deflectedEconomic StatementJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes benefits of cuts to families but avoids addressing why services were not funded instead.
In fact, proportionally and percentage-wise, the cuts are higher for families and individuals than for companies.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question by threatening legal action and attacking Liberals rather than addressing the meeting evidence.
If the member is suggesting otherwise, she might want to take that allegation outside the House.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior claims of cooperation and pivots to an election slogan instead of answering about further police questioning.
In the last election, we ran on a campaign slogan of "Stand up for Canada".
- deflectedThe EnvironmentGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames prior Liberal governments for environmental issues instead of addressing current strategy shortcomings.
I can only clean up so many Liberal messes at a time.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites past Liberal failures and slogans rather than responding to the deputy ministers committee or hidden agenda claims.
That is the sad legacy left by the Liberal Party.
- deflectedManufacturing IndustryMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes tax cuts and quotes industry praise instead of addressing call for direct manufacturing aid.
The reduction in the federal corporate tax rate is an extremely important step in sustaining Canada's ability to retain and attract business investment.
- answeredForestry IndustryMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists specific prior funding commitments to forestry and cites industry endorsement.
When we took office, immediately in our very first budget we committed $400 million to help the forestry sector across Canada
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Bloc and PQ on tax policy rather than addressing fiscal imbalance promise to Quebec.
Only the Parti Québécois and the Bloc Québécois believe in tax hikes for Quebeckers.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to listing government spending and accuses Bloc of interference instead of committing to tax transfer.
It is the Bloc Québécois that wants to interfere and block these major benefits for Quebeckers.
- misdirectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to Liberal sponsorship scandal and threatens legal action rather than addressing Airbus settlement recovery.
If the member is so confident, I am sure he will want to repeat his suggestions outside the House.
- misdirectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer again blames Liberals and warns of costs instead of explaining refusal of Airbus inquiry.
If the Liberal Party wants to raise them again, let them do it outside the House and this time the Liberal Party can pay those costs instead of the taxpayers of Canada.
- partly answeredCanada Border Services AgencyUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims adoption of recommendations and cites seizure stats but does not explain why high-risk entries occurred.
we have adopted all the recommendations of the Auditor General.
- deflectedCanada Border Services AgencyUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends record with stats and accuses questioner of inconsistency rather than committing to stronger enforcement.
Every time we do, he is one of the first ones to complain that we are moving somebody out.
- partly answeredEconomic StatementMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the tax cut characterization but ignores the specific unkept promises on child care and gas tax.
When the member says that they are mainly corporate tax reductions, that is wrong.
- answeredEconomic StatementMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly counters the infrastructure claim by referencing the leveraged $100 billion total from the March budget.
When that is leveraged with the provinces and the municipalities, and the private sector in some circumstances, that will be more than $100 billion for cities and towns for infrastructure
- deflectedAir TransportationMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the use of passenger data by pivoting to US sovereignty instead.
The U.S. is a sovereign country and has the sovereign right to be informed as to who is on all aircraft that are flying in its territory.
- misdirectedAir TransportationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response is a direct personal insult rather than any engagement with the statement.
- answeredAir TransportationMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the no-fly list concern by stating ongoing diplomatic requests to remove Arar's name.
at every diplomatic level we continue to request of the American authorities to remove Mr. Arar's name, and we will continue to make that case.
- misdirectedPost-Secondary EducationMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the prior Liberal record on transfers instead of addressing current student funding measures.
it takes a lot of guts to get up and chide us on post-secondary education when it was the hon. member's government that cut $25 billion out of the Canada social transfer.
- deflectedPost-Secondary EducationMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to historical Liberal cuts and missing funds rather than responding to the current student support question.
I think history will reflect that actually the Liberals cut the Canada social transfer, but they preserved all the funding that ultimately provided them with the $40 million that is now missing somewhere among the Liberal ranks.
- partly answeredOlder WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists existing older worker programs but does not address the absence of new measures in the economic statement.
That is why we announced the targeted initiative for older workers.
- deflectedSeniorsMr. Raymond Gravel (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists unrelated government initiatives for seniors without addressing the specific GIS increase request.
The fact is we put in place a number of different supports so that seniors are allowed to keep more of the income that they earn.
- partly answeredCanada Elections ActMr. Ken Boshcoff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the issue and states intent to address it but provides no firm guarantee or timeline.
We are going to try to get that done and with the cooperation of the other parties, it could happen.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights increased spending and inherited deficits instead of addressing the mini-budget allocation critique.
There is a big deficit of course that we inherited from the Liberal Party, but we are working closely with first nations.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response dismisses the statement as a falsehood rather than engaging with the point of order raised.
I would like to confirm your judgment that obviously that is a point of debate, but also a complete falsehood.