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Thursday, May 10, 2007 · sitting No. 151

Liberal motion on income trusts and interest deductibility leads supply day

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion moved a supply motion calling on the government to withdraw its interest non-deductibility proposal and address vulnerabilities created by its income-trust policies. The motion argued that the measures hinder Canadian businesses internationally and increase risks of foreign takeovers. Debate on the motion consumed half the sitting.

In Question Period, Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on whether Canada is negotiating with NATO to replace Canadian troops in Kandahar after February 2009. Harper replied that no such talks are under way and that allies do not expect an early Canadian decision. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette and NDP Leader Jack Layton also raised gasoline prices and ministerial travel expenses.

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Who held the floor · 2007-05-10

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 35%, opposition 65% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
31Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting centred on extended Business of Supply debate with little else accomplished. No bills advanced, no votes occurred, and most Question Period replies were deflected or incomplete.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Gasoline Prices

Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette cited a study showing Quebec and Canadian consumers pay 15 cents per litre too much and urged the government to strengthen the Competition Act. Industry Minister Maxime Bernier said market forces would soon lower prices and accused the Bloc of inconsistency for supporting Bill C-288.

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Ministerial Expenses

NDP Leader Jack Layton said the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities had used a private jet without disclosing costs. Government House Leader Peter Van Loan replied that all ministerial expenses are disclosed under policy and that Conservative ministers spend far less than their Liberal predecessors.

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Finance

Liberal MP John McCallum reported that five experts at the finance committee unanimously urged the finance minister to abandon the deductibility plan and form a working group. Conservative MP Diane Ablonczy said the government is closing a loophole that allows the same expense to be deducted twice.

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Agriculture and Agri-food

Bloc Québécois MP André Bellavance asked whether cheese-composition regulations would cover all varieties to protect supply management. Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl said the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is consulting processors and producers on both domestic and imported cheese.

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Employment Insurance

Bloc Québécois MP Johanne Deschamps noted that the House had voted in favour of Bill C-269 to improve employment insurance and asked whether the government would grant royal recommendation. Human Resources Minister Monte Solberg said the bill would cost the fund $6.2 billion annually and bankrupt it.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses whether talks are underway.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question of engaging NATO by praising troops and implying opposition games.I can say with great certainty that our allies appreciate the fine work that Canadian troops are doing in Kandahar and, to my knowledge, they are not seeking Canada to withdraw from its international responsibilities in any way.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the opposition instead of clarifying the deadline.However, I can say with great certainty that the men and women in uniform for our allies no more appreciate the games of the opposition than the men and women in uniform for Canada.
  4. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses development spending but ignores the call to fire the defence minister and improve coordination.This year alone—and I went there again recently—we have spent $39 million, which is eight times more than the $5 million the former government spent in Kandahar.
  5. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer covers Canadian contact with Karzai but does not address expanded diplomatic strategy discussions with NATO.Canada is playing a major role in terms of our continued contact within the Karzai government.
  6. misdirected
    Gasoline PricesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's inconsistency on another bill instead of addressing Competition Act changes.
  7. partly answered
    Gasoline PricesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions Bill C-41 but pivots to market forces without committing to Competition Bureau powers.
  8. deflected
    Gasoline PricesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates market principles without explaining the specific crude-to-pump price disconnect.The Bloc has been here in the House for 13 years and in all that time it has never understood how the free market economy works.
  9. deflected
    Gasoline PricesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer invites a complaint but pivots to attacking the Bloc's unrelated bill instead of addressing refining margins or Competition Bureau powers.it is important for Quebeckers to realize that the Bloc Québécois and the Liberal Party are in favour of Bill C-288 , which will increase the price of gas for Canadians and Quebeckers.
  10. misdirected
    Ministerial ExpensesJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims compliance but shifts to comparing with Liberals and attacking the NDP leader's past record rather than naming non-compliant ministers.the leader of the NDP has some problems with the facts.
  11. misdirected
    Ministerial ExpensesJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the compliance claim but launches a personal attack on the NDP leader's city council record instead of addressing disclosure.That was despite the fact that he had a free public transit pass at the same time.
  12. partly answered
    FinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Ms. Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the deductibility plan by citing committees but does not address creating a working group or the unanimous expert recommendations.what the government has done is endorse recommendations from this House, from the public accounts committee, from the finance committee, from the Jack Mintz committee on business taxation and from the Auditor General
  13. deflected
    FinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Ms. Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes Liberal rhetoric and claims experts oppose double-dipping but ignores the specific expert quotes and plan endorsement request.a great deal was left out in that torqued rhetoric.
  14. deflected
    FinanceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Ms. Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers to the budget language on fairness but avoids naming any endorsing expert or tabling a precise ways and means motion.I would urge my friend opposite to read the budget in which the minister said very clearly that our government would make the tax system more fair
  15. deflected
    FinanceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Ms. Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts the minister's intentions are clear but refuses to table a ways and means motion or address the unanimous expert opposition.the minister has made his intention with respect to this provision of the budget abundantly clear and will continue to do so until even the members opposite will finally get it.
  16. answered
    Agriculture and Agri-foodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the ongoing CFIA regulatory process covering domestic and imported cheese with consultation phases.the CFIA is undertaking a regulatory process that will deal with both domestic and imported cheese.
  17. partly answered
    Agriculture and Agri-foodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes ongoing regulatory steps but does not address reviewing measures or providing concrete support for supply management.we are moving ahead with the regulatory process on compositional standards based on the moderator's report from the dairy industry working group.
  18. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer blames Quebec fishers and processors instead of stating what the minister intends to do.The fishers cannot do it in Quebec. It is up to them.
  19. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges some issues and mentions tariff increases but does not address fuel costs, permits, marketing or foreign competition.we have about a 60% increase this year in the amount that can go in at the lower tariff.
  20. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals' record instead of addressing the committee cancellation or the minister's role.what about the position of the Liberals, who voted against our 2007 budget, a budget which allocated $30 million for minority communities?
  21. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again attacks Liberal history and budget votes rather than responding to the minister's defense of linguistic minorities.What about the Liberal decision to cut $100 million from funds allocated to communities between 1993 and 1997?
  22. partly answered
    Ministerial ExpensesMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides comparative numbers on travel but does not address why the minister is hiding expenses or publishing them.former Liberal ministers travelled 300% more, 81 flights versus 27 for Conservative ministers.
  23. deflected
    Ministerial ExpensesMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The provided answer text is incomplete and does not engage the question about publishing expenses.
  24. misdirected
    Public Service of CanadaMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references past Liberal actions and an unrelated investigation instead of addressing the Environment employee arrest or budget leaks.. After all, this is the principle the member for Winnipeg North was trying to advance when she asked the RCMP to investigate the income trust leaks.
  25. deflected
    Public Service of CanadaMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses general laws on confidentiality without addressing the specific question on RCMP investigation of leaks.the hon. member knows full well the importance of the laws respecting the confidentiality of government and cabinet information
  26. misdirected
    AgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the member's past comments instead of addressing the retroactive program changes and funding loss.He is the hon. member who, when I introduced the farm family options program, told me this was a disgusting program.
  27. misdirected
    AgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again attacks the member's prior statements rather than responding to the demand to restore funding.This is the member who said that the farm family option program was a blame the victim program.
  28. partly answered
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer confirms discussions occurred at NATO but dismisses the member and avoids specifics on post-2009 commitments.there were discussions about the ongoing commitment of NATO troops in Afghanistan.
  29. partly answered
    Softwood LumberNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the secret meeting and defends the deal but does not address whether it is flawed.Ambassador Schwab was not in Ottawa. There was no secret meeting.
  30. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights government actions and opposition costs without confirming if royal recommendation will be granted.So far the opposition has voted in favour of private members' bills that would cost the EI fund $6.2 billion every year
  31. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer blames the Bloc for bill drafting instead of addressing the refusal to respect the House vote on EI changes.This problem is that the Bloc Québécois is incapable of drafting a bill that is in order.
  32. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Bernard Patry (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies that Conservative members voted against the motion at the minister's request.
  33. deflected
    National RevenueMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Carol Skelton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives a general reassurance on tax collection without addressing the specific Sun-Times case or amount.I appreciate the question, but I want to reassure the House that we ensure that all people who owe money to the Government of Canada pay their tax bills.
  34. deflected
    National RevenueMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Carol Skelton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer refuses to comment on the specific case and pivots to a general statement on compliance.as I have said many times before, I cannot comment on cases.
  35. partly answered
    Canadian HeritageMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses museum funding but ignores the broken promise and specific program cut mentioned.That is why we invested $290 million in museums last year.
  36. deflected
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists recent bills instead of outlining the agenda or addressing estimates and ways and means motions.It has been a busy week for the democratic reform family of bills.
  37. answered
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly accepts the offer to consult on expediting the Olympics legislation.I thank the opposition House leader very much for that very kind offer and I would be very happy to take him up on that.