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Monday, March 19, 2007 · sitting No. 123
Afghan detainee handling dominates question period as opposition faults defence minister
Question period focused on the government's handling of Afghan detainees after Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor corrected earlier statements on the International Committee of the Red Cross role. Liberal MP Stéphane Dion pressed the prime minister on continued confidence in the minister, citing repeated inaccurate information on prisoner oversight and human rights obligations. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan replied that Canada maintains agreements with Afghan authorities and the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission to ensure compliance with the Geneva conventions.
The house also heard the finance minister table the 2007 budget and begin debate on its measures. Members from several parties raised concerns over seniors' benefits during third reading of Bill C-36, an act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act. Routine proceedings included committee reports on employment insurance changes and supplementary estimates.
Decided that day
- C-36 advanced in first chamber
- C-412 introduced
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Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro asked Environment Minister John Baird to outline Canada's role at the G-8 environment meeting in Potsdam; Baird said the government had restored international leadership after years of inaction by previous administrations.
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NDP MP Peggy Nash questioned the logic of the government's plan to sell and lease back federal properties, warning of long-term costs to taxpayers; Conservative MP James Moore defended the approach as fiscally sound and already vetted under prior Liberal processes.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
Bloc Québécois MP Caroline St-Hilaire called on Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay to intervene personally for Canadian citizen Maxim Charbonneau held without charges in Haiti; MacKay said consular visits and high-level representations to Haitian authorities were continuing.
Read the exchangeLeader of the Opposition
Liberal MP Paul Szabo asked the government to repay public funds used by a Conservative staff member to film the opposition leader for election purposes; Conservative MP Peter Van Loan said opposition research is standard practice across parties.
Read the exchangeManufacturing Industry
NDP MP Wayne Marston urged action on manufacturing job losses and pension shortfalls in Hamilton; Conservative MP Colin Carrie said the government was reviewing the industry committee report and had already set out measures in Advantage Canada.
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- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates government policy on detainees without addressing the minister's errors or loss of confidence.
It is our policy in Afghanistan to ensure that all detainees are treated in accordance with the Geneva conventions.
- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains Red Cross access under the agreement but does not address why the minister made repeated errors.
The International Committee of the Red Cross is given full access to those detainees under that agreement.
- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses building Afghan capacity instead of addressing the commission's admitted inability to do the job or the minister's competence.
We have supported, and will continue to support, the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission so it can develop that capacity in Afghanistan
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies interference but does not address the contradiction with the department's challenge to jurisdiction.
I am not interfering in any of the ongoing investigations.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states investigations will continue without addressing the department's contesting of jurisdiction.
currently four investigations are ongoing and four investigations will carry on to their conclusion
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the new agreement and Red Cross role but does not address the call for resignation over misleading statements.
the minister made clear to the House at the earliest opportunity the clarification of the situation with the International Committee of the Red Cross.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the clarified process but does not address whether the minister informed the Prime Minister or misled him.
We now know exactly how detainees will be treated.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers to an ongoing investigation without addressing the minister's prior certainty about locating all prisoners.
the member is referring to an ongoing investigation.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates ongoing investigations without addressing the claimed contradiction or call to resign.
All the investigations will proceed and we will wait for the outcome of every investigation.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that investigations will proceed but does not assure non-interference in the MPCC probe.
Mr. Speaker, four investigations are ongoing and all four will proceed.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again states investigations will proceed without addressing the JAG letter or alleged attempt to stop the probe.
Mr. Speaker, I have said that all the investigations, the National Investigation Service, the Board of Inquiry and the MPCC investigations, will proceed.
- misdirectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses a meeting instead of confirming or denying the specific September 26 phone call asked about.
Mr. Speaker, I met earlier with the president of the International Red Cross. We talked about a number of issues. We did not talk about that specific issue.
- partly answeredAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states the incident is under NIS investigation but does not address the broader claims of falsehoods or lack of monitoring.
Mr. Speaker, this particular incident is being investigated by the NIS at this time.
- deflectedAfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes issues are under investigation without explaining the delay in starting them.
Mr. Speaker, all these various issues are under investigation. When the results come out, we will all learn the truth.
- deflectedAfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects a premise about abuse but does not address the delay in investigations or alleged misleading of the House.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to correct the member's earlier statement where she talks about abuse. There is no proof of abuse at this time. We must wait for the outcome of the investigations.
- answeredAfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly addresses the accusation of falsehoods by issuing a full apology and explaining the correction made.
Mr. Speaker, this morning in my statement I apologized to the House fully and completely for providing inaccurate information.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the specific charge of negligence by restating that information was provided and investigations are ongoing.
Like the Minister of National Defence , we responded at the time with the information that was given to us.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michel Gauthier (Bloc) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to describing a new agreement instead of addressing repeated misleading or resignation.
recently we made an agreement with the Afghan human rights commission.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michel Gauthier (Bloc) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific claims of falsehoods and court-martial reference, pivoting to general statements on treatment of prisoners.
our government set is a very important requirement that we ensure that detainees are treated properly in accordance with international law.
- misdirectedAfghanistanIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses a different topic of supporting women's rights rather than the commission's funding or objectivity.
the Government of Canada supports initiatives in Afghanistan that strive to respect the rights of individuals, particularly the rights of women.
- answeredAfghanistanIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms financial support of one million dollars to the commission from the government.
the Canadian government has financially supported the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission.
- partly answeredAfghanistanAlbina Guarnieri (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses monitoring capability but does not fully assure on resources or reputation protection before transfers.
I met with the representatives of the human rights commission and they assured me that they are capable of following up on prisoners and reporting any possible abuse.
- deflectedAfghanistanAlbina Guarnieri (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains funding sources and broader goals but avoids committing to signing over resources or guaranteeing no disappearances.
The Department of National Defence does not feel it is appropriate for it to be funding an organization for reasons of perception of conflict.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP and references past Liberal actions instead of addressing the economic logic of the scheme.
I can assure the NDP that when it comes to making fiscal sense and putting in place a plan that makes sense financially, the NDP will be the first party that we ignore.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's record instead of addressing the question on reversing the building sale.
We will go ahead and ignore the NDP which has a record of fiscal mismanagement in every province of this country.
- partly answeredAfghanistanSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states they will use the commission but does not address when or what steps will be taken.
Great Britain and The Netherlands use the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission to monitor the activities of detainees in the Afghan system and we will also.
- answeredAfghanistanSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the plan to monitor and report abuse via the commission.
the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission has assured us that it will report any abuse of prisoners.
- answeredAfghanistanDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). substantive question.The answer specifies engagement of the commission to monitor and report on detainees.
we have engaged the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission.
- deflectedAfghanistanDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer admits the error but does not address why the minister thought he would get away with it.
my understanding of the activities of the Red Cross with the handling of detainees was incorrect.
- answeredForeign AffairsMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines interventions at high levels and ongoing consular assistance.
We have taken this matter directly to the highest levels of the Haitian government, including the Prime Minister and the Minister of Justice.
- answeredForeign AffairsMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms continued pressure for a fair trial and consular support.
We will continue to pressure and work with the Haitian government to see that this case results in a fair trial.
- misdirectedLeader of the OppositionMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general opposition research practices and mocks the Liberals instead of addressing repayment or accountability.
Two things are amazing: first, that the Liberal Party is not delighted that somebody is actually interested in what its leader has to say; and second, that it is pleased to have company there at the events.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the infrastructure funding request by pivoting to private sector delivery without addressing taxpayer dollars.
The Government of Canada is going to let the private sector deliver it.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights general northern visits and housing but ignores the call for a specific industrial strategy.
Both the Prime Minister and the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development have been throughout the north assisting northern communities not only with economic development but the housing sector as well.
- misdirectedLeader of the OppositionMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberal positions and implies conspiracy rather than addressing repayment of funds.
it is a difficult and challenging thing to keep up with the changing positions of the Liberal leader.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). loaded question.The reply mentions recent meetings but evades the misleading claim by blaming the prior Liberal government.
Of course though, we cannot forget that it was in fact the Liberal Party that left this community without a dime or a plan.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly denies dismantling the directorate and notes internal changes, addressing the core factual premise.
in fact, we did no such things.
- deflectedManufacturing IndustryMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). substantive question.The response references past reports and plans but provides no timeline for a manufacturing jobs protection plan.
We are looking forward to reviewing the recommendations that came out of the committee's important study on the challenges facing the Canadian manufacturing sector.
- misdirectedCanadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question with a song lyric and shifts to attacking opposition on marketing choice instead of condemning any list.
it reminds me of that old Chilliwack song, She talks crazy talk
- partly answeredIndustryMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The reply confirms existing funding and notes ongoing analysis but stops short of promising an increase.
our government indeed paid $18 million to the National Optics Institute for the next three years.