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Thursday, February 15, 2007 · sitting No. 111
Liberals move wide-ranging opposition motion on judges Kyoto and crime
The House devoted nearly half its sitting to a Liberal opposition motion moved by Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff. The motion accused the government of imposing a narrow-minded socially conservative ideology on judicial appointments refusing to honour Kyoto obligations and failing on child care aboriginal issues and the Wheat Board. Debate on the motion continued at adjournment.
In Question Period Liberal leader Stéphane Dion challenged Prime Minister Stephen Harper over changes to judicial advisory committees. Harper defended the addition of police perspectives on the committees and accused the Liberals of being soft on crime and terrorism. Further exchanges between Dion Scott Brison and Industry Minister Maxime Bernier centred on the auto sector while NDP leader Jack Layton pressed Harper on Kyoto compliance.
Routine proceedings included the presentation of finance committee reports and unsuccessful attempts to secure unanimous consent for a motion on China-Tibet dialogue.
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Who held the floor · 2007-02-15
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China-Tibet Dialogue
NDP MP Peggy Nash sought unanimous consent for a motion urging continued dialogue between China and Tibet's government in exile. Consent was denied on the first attempt and granted on the second.
Read the exchangeAutomobile Industry
Liberal MP Scott Brison said the industry minister had killed a program that supported auto investment. Bernier replied that Canadian assembly employment had risen from 51,000 in 2004 to 52,000 in 2006.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
NDP leader Jack Layton said the government was duty bound to respect the Kyoto bill passed by the House the previous night. Harper replied that the bill contained no action plan or spending authority.
Read the exchangeAnti-terrorism Act
Conservative MP Ed Fast asked the Prime Minister to explain the importance of extending anti-terrorism measures. Harper said the Liberal leader's opposition could affect the Air-India investigation.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
Liberal MP Tina Keeper criticized Indian Affairs Minister Jim Prentice for a letter that blamed caregivers for the removal of first nations children. Prentice said 9,000 children in care was too many and defended the government's spending.
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- misdirectedJudicial AppointmentsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberals on crime instead of addressing judicial manipulation claim.
I understand that the leader of the Liberal Party and the Liberal Party do not like the police, do not like a law enforcement perspective.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats attacks on Liberal crime policies rather than addressing judicial independence.
That is not the only criminal justice reform he opposes.
- misdirectedAutomobile IndustryStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to terrorism and changes subject instead of addressing auto sector plan.
For the first time in history we have a leader of the opposition who is soft on terrorism.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks prior Liberal record on pardons instead of addressing judicial appointments or arrogance.
I would like to know how he explains today the report that under his government the National Parole Board awarded more than 100,000 pardons over the past six years, including two for murder convictions.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer focuses on criticizing Liberals for opposing police on committees rather than addressing constitutional or crime plan issues.
I want to know what they have against police officers, and I want them to not just say it here.
- partly answeredJudicial AppointmentsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends police inclusion on committees but does not address intent to appoint like-minded judges.
The committees will, for the first time, include the police perspective.
- misdirectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses Bloc of being soft on crime instead of addressing judicial ideology or independence.
it is the Bloc's ideology alone that is opposed to mandatory prison terms for crimes committed with firearms.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends police addition and accuses critic of undermining police rather than addressing judicial profiling.
If the member wants to talk about undermining, he is certainly undermining the police forces of this country and the wonderful job they do by continuously criticizing their addition to these committees.
- misdirectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner and pivots to praising police instead of addressing judicial appointments or ideology.
I really cannot believe that the member for the Bloc Québécois is making a statement like that.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the bill is meaningless with no plan or spending authority, addressing the compliance question directly.
There is no action plan and no authority to spend to achieve the targets.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the bill would be respected if law but notes it lacks a plan or spending authority.
of course if and when that becomes law the government would respect it.
- deflectedAutomobile IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer provides employment stats and denies a Liberal strategy existed but does not address the think tank critique or program killing.
after 13 long years those members did not produce any auto strategy.
- misdirectedAutomobile IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner with a quote on hypocrisy instead of addressing the auto program or job impacts.
Speaking of hypocrisy, Mr. Speaker, let me quote for the House something said by a member opposite in the Ottawa Citizen :
- deflectedAutomobile IndustryBelinda Stronach (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists new plant mandates but does not address the lack of a manufacturing plan or job losses.
the new Camaro will be built in Oshawa.
- deflectedAutomobile IndustryBelinda Stronach (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites corporate tax cuts and Advantage Canada but does not address the trade deficit or competitiveness plan.
this government reduced 29 corporate taxes to make Canada more attractive to businesses.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsMrs. Carole Freeman (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends judicial quality and appointments but does not address the laissez-faire versus intervention contradiction or ideology claim.
we are absolutely committed to the highest quality within our judicial system.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsMrs. Carole Freeman (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the Conservative Party's historical respect for the Constitution without addressing the judiciary independence claim.
there is no group of individuals who have been part of a political movement that has more respect for the Constitution of this country than the Conservative Party.
- misdirectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Michel Gauthier (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the Bloc Québécois on crime policy instead of addressing judicial selection.
When they get home to their ridings, they talk about how strong they want to be about fighting crime.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Michel Gauthier (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates a preference for qualified judges then pivots to questioning the asker's commitment to the Constitution.
Now the hon. member wants to become a champion of the Constitution.
- misdirectedGovernment PoliciesMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the previous Liberal government's cuts rather than addressing the current government's plans for learning and training.
under the previous government the Liberals cut $25 billion out of the Canada social transfer
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer points to Advantage Canada as the economic plan but does not directly address support for displaced manufacturing workers.
in October we unveiled our economic plan for Canada called Advantage Canada, including the knowledge advantage that we intend to create for the people of Canada.
- deflectedJudicial AppointmentsMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims only Liberals are outraged and notes appointments followed prior processes without affirming independence.
the only people who are outraged are the Liberals who are not appointing any more judges these days.
- partly answeredSecurity Certificate DetaineesMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the security certificate process and notes humane conditions plus court-imposed restrictions but does not commit to new policy.
When people are detained it is under the most humane of circumstances and also in this case.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer questions Senate timing and quotes criticism of the bill instead of addressing compliance with the Kyoto law.
The cynicism and hypocrisy of this is staggering
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the question on respecting laws and instead insults the opposition's record.
He said the Leader of the Opposition's "record as environment minister was abysmally bad, earning him a reputation as the Dr. Doolittle of climate change", and I agree.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the bill's limits but avoids the core question on respecting parliamentary will.
The bill that has come before Parliament gives no authorization for the expenditure of funds.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the asker's family record instead of engaging the Kyoto question.
It was the member for Ottawa South, the Liberal Party critic, who said that implementing Kyoto would cost $40 billion.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the airspace and flight details with specific assurances.
All flight plans were provided to Nav Canada in all cases.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clearly states there is no indication Arar was on such a flight.
In Mr. Arar's case, we have no information or indication to suggest that he was in a flight that was in Canada.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the statement but does not address the call for cooperation with first nations.
It is clear, I have said, that children are apprehended, they are taken into care by those who wish to protect them when there are difficulties by their caregivers.
- deflectedTransportationMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims action was taken but avoids releasing the report as requested.
The minister actually issued a directive on July 24, 2006 for CN to submit an action plan.
- deflectedTransportationMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to release the report by citing the law and attacks the prior government instead.
Unlike the previous Liberal government, where corruption and scandal took place, this government obeys the law
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the demand for an apology and instead attacks the Liberal Party on unrelated issues.
The Liberal Party is becoming a backwater of intolerance on these issues.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides a detailed weekly schedule that explicitly includes the requested supply days.
Tuesday, February 20, and Thursday, February 22, will be allotted to the business of supply.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The response addresses the clarification request by noting the date depends on agreement rather than confirming Monday.
it is our hope to conclude an agreement with the other House leaders to determine what date it would be called, on the basis of a fixed debate